r/canadaguns • u/FireteamOrcale • Apr 11 '26

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This guys been working on a L85 project and actually got a NR FRT back from the RCMP.

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

First the Vintorez (restricted due to barrel length) and now this. I guess there are still some sane people in the RCMP.

Unfortunately that doesn't mean its immune to future bans, as the government can override RCMP's NR decision at the stroke of a pen. For example, when the GSG-16 was explicitly deemed not a MP5 and therefore NR by the RCMP, they Liberals just added a paragraph in the OIC to name-ban it instead.

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u/slvrus Apr 11 '26

Vintorez? Where?

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 11 '26

Tactical Imports applied for it a few years ago and got approved. Unfortunately Canada currently has an embargo on Russian imports.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/threads/ma-vintorez-7-62.2534055/

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u/Plasma_48 Apr 11 '26

I’ve been eyeing that, since I saw it on armalytics, definitely a grail gun.

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 11 '26

In theory if you know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy, they can probably grab it from a different European country without an embargo and import it into Canada normally. Bonus points for 18.6" barrels.

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u/Plasma_48 Apr 11 '26

Do you theoretically happen to know a guy? Or will I continue searching for the definitely not Russian made vintorez’?

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u/Many-Presentation-56 Apr 11 '26

Some of the real Tula/TOZ VSS Vintorez civilian models in EU are going for 12k-15k euros now. So it’s pretty pricey nowadays. There are also the Molot clones as well and those are cheaper but still a few thousand euros are still available in various EU countries.

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u/Baldbeardedblackguy Apr 11 '26

Dear God. 15k EUROS

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u/DePoots Apr 11 '26

I would pay a stupid amount for a Vintorez. It’s my dream gun, so I really hope it makes its way here.

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 11 '26

It's currently impossible to get directly from Russia due to war-related sanctions, but I'm sure there are other ways lol

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u/slvrus Apr 11 '26

Why hasnt China started cloning them for us??

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u/Many-Presentation-56 Apr 11 '26

I mean you can buy them, both the authentic Tula/TOZ VSS and Molot VSS clones are still available in EU. Prices are around 6k Euro for Molot clone and around 12-15k Euro for the original Tula model.

The issue more becomes if you want to risk importing it, as RCMP or Gov can currently just ban anything at anytime. Especially risky for the Tula/TOZ model as so far only the Molot model has a restricted FRT so it would take years to get it approved.

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u/HappyCan7250 Apr 11 '26

I love seeing people bring us new stuff, it's a struggle back and forth between us and the government, I just worry if the government thinks "oh there's enough semi autos back on the market, we need a new ban", then we may end up seeing ALL options get scooped up again. I'm going to remain optimistic and think this will not happen, but there's a little voice in the back of my head saying it might. It should not be this way, it's broken as fuck that they've made us all, lawful, tax paying working folks afraid of attracting the hammer of government for pursuing lawful activities, but that fear does still exist, for me at least.

I still would love to see this show up and be an option, I just worry it'll become the next Poly poster child for bans and risk attracting more attention to our limited options, but I do refuse to let them kill this hobby of ours.