r/canadaguns • u/Independent-Bad8575 • Apr 10 '26
News / Politics / Activism Firearm logistics
I understand the current state of law and regulations are not favourable to businesses in the firearms industry at the current time . Certain manufacturers have basically wrote off Canada. Now while I understand this from a business standpoint I don’t understand why certain retailers don’t recognize this and make more of an effort to combat this. So many things are perpetually out of stock or on special order. 85% of online stores and brick and mortar for that matter are constantly out of stock with no ETA on when that will change. I feel like we are living in a logistic 3rd world country in this industry. For example trying to find a ruger 10/22 with anything other than the absolute basic model or the black synthetic is nearly impossible without special order. This is an indication that they will sell out very quickly. So why never stock anything or give any real etas. I’ve talked to a few distributors and they do have the ability to make these orders still but are apprehensive . I know we’re limited on what we can own but stocking popular models isn’t even the norm anymore. Do you guys know anywhere across Canada that I can order things without a 6 week lead time ? This is getting ridiculous and the sport is dying from 2 ends. 1 being the government and 2 is the lack of supply from retailers. This is harming whatever we have left. This is my rant for now, I get it’s tough out there for everyone but these retailers are severely lacking on keeping things in stock. I just want a 10-22 carbon magpul, not asking for much.
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u/Life-Event6168 Apr 10 '26
Not sure retailers want to tie up their capital when their stock can be deemed illegal and unsellable at a moment's notice by a government that is accountable to no one.
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u/Independent-Bad8575 Apr 10 '26
I understand how my post can seem short sighted. I agree it would not be a wise move to import a shipment of sks rifles right now. But I’m not even talking about just guns themselves. Optics , low capacity magazines, reloading supplies etc, rail accessories. Most people have to go to air-soft retailers to get the things they need as far as accessories. All I’m saying is all these retailers are doing exactly what the government wants . To scare everyone out of the sport from a business standpoint to then we cannot get anything whether it be legal or not. Manufacturers like ruger have basically pulled operations from the retail side out of Canada . The new ruger American bolt rifles are very hard to find in Canada due to lack of commitment from retailers. While I wouldn’t put it past them I think the bolt guns in normal to smaller calibres are safe for now. If they aren’t then we have bigger issues
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u/HappyCan7250 Apr 11 '26
Cabela's had the Ruger american predators, I bought one there a couple months back and several other shops have them in stock right now.
If you're looking for the Ranch model I got one from IRunGuns a few weeks back. They had them in stock, maybe check them out.
The new Prairie and Scout models look pretty sweet but I doubt they'll be showing up in Canada anytime soon
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u/Independent-Bad8575 Apr 10 '26
I’m not oblivious to this fact but they are really the only thing able to keep any sort of substance in this sport. So it’s all over then?
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u/Scott-YYC Apr 10 '26
What can be done to stop the Liberals and what ever they want to do? They'll have a majority next week. If you owned a gun store, would you risk bringing in inventory that could be banned? You'd still have to pay for goods that can't be sold.
Is it over? Maybe. The only thing that's going to save gun culture in Canada is a change of government, and based on all of the floor crossing, that's never going to happen, at least in what's left of many of our lifetimes.
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u/Ilikechainsaws09 Apr 10 '26
Unless you want to start an insurgency. This would be a good place to recruit.
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u/Mosquitoisland Apr 10 '26
I understand the retailers position. I used to spend tons of $$$$ on gun stuff. Since the bans started it’s taken the wind out of my sails and literally haven’t bought anything. From thousands per year to zero. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
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u/Independent-Bad8575 Apr 10 '26
I get your point but there is rarely even 1-2 . The demand is there . Insurance exits and exports are an option. They are part of the problem
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u/GunLife94 Apr 10 '26
Insurance does nothing if you have unsalable inventory due to regulations or slow sales. Alot of the guns the government banned, AR-15s for example can't be exported to the USA due to their regulations on import.
As well retailers dont order direct from the gun manufacturers, in most cases they order through a distributor. The distributor, to make it viable has to order a bunch of product at a time for shipping/ import costs to be justified, but they also dont want to sit on product that won't sell or gets banned.
Also in more recent cases, they dont want to order a ton of product subject to a tarrif that means the product will cost more, especially when the tariff can be removed at anytime allowing other distributors to obtain the same product at 25% less if they held off ordering.
Depending on the product and manufacturer, there have been many cases in the recent past where they can't keep up with demand in the USA let alone supply Canada which also means less product available up here.
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u/HALF-PRICE_ Apr 10 '26
Risk vs reward. The retailers risk that investment in their order of say 100 Rugers not selling for the small reward amount of profit to be made. Also IF they do not sell those retailers also know that the government will not be paying full retail costs to “buy-back” them for the inventory they order. It is a lose-lose risk for a small profit reward. Most businesses are not willing to risk it. You want a Ruger I want a Phalanx.
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u/Independent-Bad8575 Apr 10 '26
I agree but when I call a few retailers about certain rifles and they say “ your about the 50th person who called this month about this model” is a sure indication there is demand and it won’t take months to offload inventory. Retailers are also aloud to export these firearms if needed. While they may not get everything they put into and order it greatly reduces fiscal risk. Just sad to see they have everyone by the nuts.
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u/Tough-Air-4765 Apr 11 '26
Honestly the way I see it is Canada isn't a profitable market to break it down as I see it. The current population of Canada is 40 million vs the US at 350 million firearms ownership in Canada is 2.2 million that is no where near the 1 third to probably half or more the population that would buy firearms related items who would you prioritize first for buisness let alone the European market. Canada has become a hostile untrust worthy market for any firearms adjacent buisness so why was the time, material, and legal issue that could come with dealing in canada for very little to no profit especially if the government says it's banned tomorrow.
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u/IcySkyDream Apr 10 '26
The chilling effect on the entire community and associated businesses is intentional.
The people who conceived this believe they have the moral high ground, so they do not care who they hurt because to them, the means justify the ends.
I hope the SCC slaps the government down.
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u/Independent-Bad8575 Apr 11 '26
Exporting guns is not rare? Certain companies such as Irunguns are making a vast majority of their income on the Canadian side from exporting guns from Canada to the USA. Had multiple friends and family members do it to avoid losing family heirlooms and stuff they just didn’t wanna see go for good. You might be new to this
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u/Scott-YYC Apr 10 '26
Why would anyone risk importing anything firearms related that could literally be banned, without compensation, by the stroke of a Liberal Politician's pen, or banned by the unelected RCMP?