r/canadaguns • u/Bulky-Example5516 • Mar 26 '26
Gun and gear reviews Is this a good pickup?
I recently got my pal and I’m looking at a ton of options. I came across this and it looks amazing along with the price. Does any have it or have additional information on it
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u/OkBurner777 Mar 26 '26
“Huglu Victor P-TAC” sounds like a prostate massager, not a shotgun.
You know how grocery store generic brand soda tastes like shit?
Imagine an item infinitely more complex, made in Turkey, with nonexistent QA/QC, then trusting your life with it.
Brand. name. Just look for the B’s.
Benelli. Beretta. mossBerg… remBington
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u/FD4L Mar 26 '26
“Huglu Victor P-TAC” sounds like a prostate massager, not a shotgun.
Now that you mention it, that pistol grip does have some sensual looking ridges.
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u/HornyGoatWeedGuzzler Mar 26 '26
Don't buy Turkish firearms
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u/Krasdf Mar 27 '26
Lol last time I said this is was downvoted to oblivion. You guys need to make up your minds.
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u/-SEREDA- Mar 27 '26
Half of this sub are people that scream “buy a mossberg” every time someone mentions any Turkish shotgun so what do you expect lol
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u/CurlyWurly61 Mar 26 '26
Just got your PAL, I know the excitement you're feeling. PLEASE. I really mean this. PLEASE buy Quality over Quantity
Stick with Mossberg, Winchester, Benelli
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u/GodsGiftToWrenching Mar 26 '26
I mean if you're trying to steer him away from turkslop, don't reccoment Winchester lol. Their SXP is made in Turkey. That being said I have had no issues with my SXP year after bashing clays or gettjng geese and ducks, stil has "made in turkey" laser etched in the side of the barrel though
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u/iatekane Mar 26 '26
The difference being that Winchester has actual quality control and manufacturing and material standards, so you’re unlikely to get a bad one.
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u/GodsGiftToWrenching Mar 26 '26
The matching machine marks in my reciever between my turknelli and my SXP beg to differ. Still turkslop, but it works, many such cases
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u/Bulky-Example5516 Mar 26 '26
I’ve heard of Mossberg I’ll look into it. Not sure why Turkish is so bad tho
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u/Any_Wind655 Mar 26 '26
Turkish manufacturers cheap out on material costs and cut a lot of corners in order to make products that are cheap and therefore very appealing. 90% of the time they will break waaaay before a legit brand comparable item.
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u/StevenMcStevensen al Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
It’s not quite that simple:
There are plenty of perfectly good Turkish guns. Caniks for instance are typically solid in the handgun market. Many reputable companies have even contracted out their manufacturing, particularly of shotguns and handguns, to Turkish firms.
Tactical-styled shotguns from Turkish companies however have become very common in the last while, and they typically are made very cheaply, with very poor quality control standards and virtually no after-purchase support. They sell only on price, and there’s a reason they’re so much cheaper than comparable guns from reputable companies. If that’s what you can spend, get even a used Mossberg or Benelli pump action. It will absolutely be a better gun.
« But a semiauto is cooler / more fun! » Constantly clearing malfunctions or struggling to find replacement parts for a poorly made one is not.
EDIT: I just reread the listing and realized it appears to be a pump gun instead of a semi. I stand by everything above however, and I certainly wouldn’t trust a pump action by these no-name Turkish companies that much more. Still way better off buying something else that is known to be decent quality, even if it’s more expensive or used.
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u/lettelsnek Mar 26 '26
iirc james reeves tested a more expensive turkish pump action and it still sucked compared to a Mav 88
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u/TheBulletBuddy Mar 26 '26
I've only bought 1 turk rifle before (tm22 pro) and got lucky that it wasn't a dud right out of the box.
There's a reason no one reccomends Turkish rifles, they have a notorious reputation of being a huge POS. Or it works flawlessly.
If you're buying turk, expect it not to function, anticipate having to send it in for warranty which could take up to 5 months, or it could get rejected. And be thrilled when that's not the case.
In the chance you get lucky and don't have to deal with that, you'll probably have a fun rifle that didn't break the bank.
But for shotguns, no way I'd risk it just to save a hundred bucks. My safety is worth more to me than that haha
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u/Bulky-Example5516 Mar 26 '26
I went ahead pulled the trigger on the tm22 pro as well. How is it?
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u/TheBulletBuddy Mar 26 '26
There's a few things you gotta tweak, but if it isn't a dud, its a blast. At least mine has been the few times ive used it so far. Not very ammo picky either.
Some people reccomend removing the left extractor if you find youre having extraction issues, and everyone reccomends installing a new plumbing washer (rubber washer) and a shim behind it (between the rubber and buffer tube face) to replace the flimsy lightweight pad that it comes with.
The buffer tube tends to shred the rubber buffer pad, which allows the bolt to over travel and sheer off the charging handle. The heavier duty rubber and metal shim fixes this. This is almost mandatory. Lots of info on YouTube about it.
Clean the thing like crazy before taking it out the first time, and give it a good oiling.
I havnt had mine for long so I can't give you any concrete user reviews. But there's a lot of information on these things since they're so popular now.
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u/SleazyGreasyCola Mar 26 '26
Mine was annoying as hell and I ended up selling it. Always had issues feeding and jamming.
That being said a have a Cannuck lever action and it's been great. It's just very hit or miss with the Turkish guns and it sucks getting a lemon.
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u/HornyGoatWeedGuzzler Mar 27 '26
If you're looking for an affordable pump, just get a Mav 88 or a 590 or 870
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u/IndiscreetTreat Mar 26 '26
Depends on your budget. If you can afford to fork out some cash for an a300 or a 1301 then you’d be FAR better off to do that than buy something Turkish.
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u/Bulky-Example5516 Mar 26 '26
Why is Turkish bad?
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u/Weary_OLeary Mar 26 '26
You can get very lucky with Turkish guns and they work fantastic for the price, but most people have had negative experiences with them due to quality control being all over the place and warranty claims can often go nowhere depending on the manufacturer which is frustrating.
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u/Weekly-Cod-3094 Mar 26 '26
If you are buying Turkish with the intent of hunting, put a couple hundred down range through it first and build some trust with it. I’ve only had good luck with my Turkish purchases, but when I’m hunting, I take my 500 or maverick.
I’ve had 2 FTE from a Sulun turknelli, more than a couple of thousand slugs, 7.5 and 00. Anything with a plastic trigger don’t have high expectations for.
For the sport of shooting, nothing wrong with Turkish, just be handy enough to take it apart and clean it, or understand simple machining and maintenance. For the price of them alone compared to the real deal Holyfield Benelli and Berettas, they are great fun, and worth it for any enthusiast to try. If you hate it, just sell it on gunpost for $150 more than you paid for it new like everyone else on there1
u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 Mar 26 '26
Their quality can be hit or miss; firearms are precision devices, and sometimes Turkish manufacturers lack the quality control to ensure they work well or last.
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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 26 '26
I prefer the Canuck Brand due to a better Warranty.
Lots of folks hate Turkish guns, my Canuck Pump action has been fine for half a decade or so. It's hard to mess up a Pump action. See if you can find some reviews on Huglu as a brand
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u/Whispersfine Mar 26 '26
Huglu is a ok manufacturer. They make shotguns for CZ. All CZ shotguns are Huglu with a different brand name
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u/Siberjon Mar 26 '26
I bought that exact rifle on a whim 3 years ago. I have been very happy and not had a single issue. It also rides on the front of my quad every spring and fall in the snow, rain, and dirt without an issue.
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u/MGx424 Mar 26 '26
If you just have to satisfy that itch to buy right now and all you've got is $400, then don't waste your money on this cheap trash. Buy something like a Mossberg 88 instead.
If you can stand to wait for a bit and save up $1600, then buy a Beretta A300 instead. It's an excellent all rounder semi auto and all you could want out of a shotgun. You also can't beat the build quality or warranty.
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u/Response-Cheap Mar 26 '26
Honestly get one of everything you need, in a quality well known brand first. Pump shotgun, center fire rifle, and a rimfire rifle at least. Depends on what you're shooting, and your personal taste. You want names like Benelli, Mossberg, Winchester, Browning, CZ, Tikka, Marlin, Smith & Wesson, etc.. Save up and pick away at your list one at a time if you have to. Then start gambling with Turkish stuff and oddball brands. I just got a Turkish Derya TM22, and it's been excellent, but I already had a CZ 457 to rely on if it ended up being a lemon or breaking after a couple boxes of ammo.
Last thing you want is to end up with a safe full of broken junk and no warranty or customer service. PAL don't mean shit if you don't have a reliable gun to use.
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u/WhackDanielz I <3 shitposts Mar 26 '26
Terrible pickup. Doesn't even have a bed. At best, it's a coupe.
Mediocre shotgun though.
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u/Living_Vanilla_1931 Mar 26 '26
Turkish shotguns have 101 rebranded variants and lots of them have issues. I bet most of these guns never get shot and sit in closets.
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u/KawasakiCowboy242 Mar 26 '26
If you want something reliable, don’t buy a Turkish shotgun, stick to Mossberg, Beretta, Benelli, or Remington. Anything else is a waste of money
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u/slwneutron Mar 27 '26
Buy this one instead!
Mossberg Maverick Model 88 FDE Combo 12 Gauge 3" 28"/18.5" Barrel Pump Action Shotgun
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u/SkSMaN7 Mar 27 '26
Is it fun for range shooting yes. Would you put your safety on the line using it, I wouldn't. You get what you pay for.
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u/Apprehensive_Oil3598 Mar 28 '26
I made the mistake of buying this. Terrible at softening recoil, sight almost out of adjustment to zero, and the foreend made changìng ammo quickky impossible without modification. Go on gunpost and get more bang for your buck
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u/Rich-Rule-2576 Mar 28 '26
You’re better off going with benelli m4 or buying a Mossberg. 590A1, 590, 500 or mav88 for the Mossberg all great guns depends on your budget
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u/directedbyjyb May 30 '26
I have this. My heat sink blew up and the butt stock got loose after about 60 rounds in. It was a new one. Not saying you shouldn’t buy it, but be realistic with your expectations, that’s all. To me it still seems fun to shoot with.
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Mar 26 '26
This thing is a pile of garbage. Costs less than the light I have on my M4. Quit being poor.
You could’ve at least saved up a bit and purchased a decent and reliable pump shotgun like an 870 or 590. But no, you had to go with the cheapest imaginable option. Embarrassing.
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u/iatekane Mar 26 '26
Well to be fair he hasn’t bought it yet (I hope anyways) so there’s it time to make a good decision
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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 26 '26
I've bought 3 Turkish shotguns, 2 worked great, 1 was a POS. Luck of the draw. I even had 2 of the same action, one worked fine, one was stiff as fuck and I actually resorted to pouring metal polish into the action, working the pump several hundred times full of metal polish, and it became mildly usable.
That said, my first Turkish 12ga, I still have it, the Churchill 612, and it's great. Never had a misfire that wasn't ammo related, and probably close to 1k rounds through it.
Churchill I find has the best of the Turkish 12ga, or Stoeger.
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u/Dizzy-Wedding5769 Mar 26 '26
The 612’s are solid and great. Shot one many times and it always go bang. With a 12 inch barrel and full stock they a great deal. I paid 260 but they may be more now.
I compared it side-by-side to the Mossberg shockwave and the only difference was the Mossberg has about a 20% smoother, pumping action . Both had no rattle and tight fit. I may have got a nice one so your mileage may…
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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 27 '26
Yeah I love my 612. I've gone through a ton of guns in the last couple years since getting my PAL, but I just can't convince myself to part with the 612. Partially sentimental now as it was my first gun, but also just because it works so damn good, and is nice and compact to throw in the truck or keep in a tent. I've got the 12" we well, but with the pistol gripped full stock.
It's also surprisingly decently smooth, and feels good and tight. I think it's up there as one of the best value shotguns on the market. I've even shot skeet with it for fun. Everyone who owns the 612 has good things to say about it. Everyone who doesn't own one, thinks they're a POS. They're great little guns
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u/Spyrothedragon9972 Mar 26 '26
What's with Canadians buying Turkish and Chinese guns? They're generally not good and there are similarly priced options from reputable manufacturers.
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u/iatekane Mar 26 '26
People like to make poor decisions and get suckered into something that “looks cool” and is cheap
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u/real_draft Mar 26 '26
Mossberg maverick 88 is what you want. Mossberg 500 if a larger budget