r/canadaguns • u/Ratfor • Mar 23 '26

Buy recommendations With the coming supreme court decision, I'm thinking about pistols.

Years ago, my license was up for renewal. While waiting for my renewal, my license expired. It only took 9 months, lol.

Unfortunately during that time, the OIC happened, and I missed out on all the cool pistol sales.

What with not being able to buy anything since then, I haven't really given attention to the world of new things. I understand we're on the glock Gen 6 now? Used to have a Gen 4. Loved it.

Maybe the supreme court bails us out, all this nonsense goes away and we can go shopping again. So what's new in the world of pistol? I have hope that sometime soon I'll be able to buy something, what should I be putting money aside for?

Anything a with a 10 or less capacity, I hate knowing I'm wasting space with pinned mags.

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u/icedesparten Mar 23 '26

Seems to be the case, for 2 reasons: rifles were banned by OIC vice pistol freeze was legislation, and rifles aren't be properly compensated for confiscation but handguns are grandfathered.

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u/IDriveAZamboni Mar 23 '26

I’ll never understand who they didn’t go the grandfathering route with the rifles. It would’ve been the politically safe option.

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u/Lumindan Mar 23 '26

Because it would defeat their narrative. They make a huge stink about how these guns are on the streets harming people, all these dangerous assault style guns.

If they let the masses keep them and it counters their point that no one should have these guns.

It's all about drumming up fear and maintaining the wedge.

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u/Mirin_Gains Mar 23 '26

They got in bed with the devil. Poly helped them win Montreal but they threaten to pull that support everytime they try and anything but confiscation. Grandfathering was the initial plan like pistols but Poly wouldn't have it.

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u/emeric1414 Mar 23 '26

The Liberals could’ve told Poly to go kick rocks, and they still would’ve won. When's the last time Montreal didn’t vote for the Liberals?

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u/MustardTiger88 Mar 23 '26

Why the fuck is a group like PolySeSouvient having any influence on our elections? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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u/Lumindan Mar 23 '26

You're not taking crazy pills, you just need more context. It's dirty all the way down.

Because to be frank, it was never about public safety. By buddying up with Poly, they get to act like they're doing things to make the public safe.

No one is shooting up downtown toronto with a WK180 but most folks don't know that, they hear that the Liberals are supporting Poly and they go "yeah that was a bad tragedy" and Poly gets to enjoy the limelight (and all their funding). Look how fast Tumbler Ridge and Oka got memory holed, it just doesn't fit their narrative.

In reality, it's to maintain the wedge issue which DOES win votes (think of all the people who see a "X wants ARs on the streets ad" and they eat that shit up). It plays directly to their base AND it lets them avoid the actual problems, it creates the illusion of public safety.

If they actually targeted the smuggling hotspots, dealt harshly with people on repeat bail with illegally smuggled handguns from the US, that would take WAY more effort and money than the buyback and the reality is, it would become a non-partisan issue which we know they cant have that.

Here's the other fun fact, they CAN NOT back down, if they do, they'd be saying they spent billions vilifying the wrong group, that infact the firearms they targeted have nothing to do with crime and that they've done nothing towards actual public safety. See the rub?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '26

Poly isn't having any influence. They are useful idiots, making an excuse for the Liberals to implement policy they want to implement to begin with but wouldn't be popular enough to do so.

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u/icedesparten Mar 23 '26

As much as it sucks, it kind of makes it easier to overturn, one way or another

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u/outline8668 Mar 23 '26

Who knows it may still happen after they are forced to admit the confiscation is a failure.

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u/Lumindan Mar 23 '26

Grandfathering is a long term confiscation trap either way.

Not to mention that it would never be with use.

It'd be their last grab at building a list and you know they'd try to grab them again down the road.

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u/outline8668 Mar 23 '26

No disagreement here. This is the easiest way for them to exit the program and wash their hands of the situation.

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u/icedesparten Mar 23 '26

Yeah, this whole thing is a mess. I may riot without my Buttmaster though.

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u/Lumindan Mar 23 '26

It is. Most rifles were changes to prohibited via OIC (ie they skipped the house). OIC can be undone by OIC.

Handguns are locked by c21 which would requirement an amendment meaning it'd have to pitched at the house and the liberals (and bloc and ndp) would vote against it.

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u/thecoolernameistaken Mar 23 '26

Seems to be that way but I just repeat Redditors wtf do I know

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u/Sco0basTeVen Mar 23 '26

I think the handgun freeze was ratified into law and not just an OIC. So yes.

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u/swift_gilford Mar 23 '26

short version: yes

Long version: the OIC guns were done by OIC so they can be undone by OIC - or in this case the court orders a reversal; unfortunately the Handgun freeze was part of legislation and therefore needs to go back the that to at best - reverse it, at least - amend it.