r/canadaguns • u/luckeycat • Mar 11 '26
News / Politics / Activism Some better interim news for Sask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kna_B132oLooks like our province is providing some interim protections to delay the issue, maybe hold out for a more reasonable government - as I am understanding it.
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u/Milkbagistani Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Just finished Runkle's video on the subject and was impressed by the Sask legislation.
The foundational issue in Canada is that Canada continues to be the only "developed" country on the planet which doesn't have private property rights enshrined in the constitution. Yes, we have hundreds of years worth of British and French legal precedents saying no expropriation without compensation; but with the federal government able to outlast anyone in court, that essentially leaves us without recourse.
I wonder if someone were to scan this legislation and "find and replace" the word FIREARM with LEGALLY OWNED PRIVATE PROPERTY (as defined elsewhere in the legislation presumably) if this wouldn't go a long way towards getting property rights into the constitution and still have the same impact on the OICs?
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26
Why do they keep taking about gun grabs and how they are bad, ya no shit but why is their a gun grab in the first place? Because they banned guns. The focus should be on reversing the bans and lifting the handgun freeze.
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u/Saskatchewan-Man sk Mar 12 '26
That is the focus.
The problem is that provinces have limited power to what they can do- So Sask is doing what little it can to stymie the gun grab. A sizeable majority of folks seem to be against the bans now, yet the Feds refuse to yield. I haven't seen more positive focus on gun ownership in this country in recent memory. We just need to keep truckin'.
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26
I didnt watch the whole video but he starts off with talking about the gun grab. Its not just him. Every politician says gun grab bad but i never hear any of them say gun ban bad. I dont believe the focus is actually on reversing bans when they never even talk about it. It should be the first thing they mention in the video, not the gun grab.
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u/Saskatchewan-Man sk Mar 12 '26
I hear where you're coming from, but I figure this has to happen incrementally. Gun owners can't overplay our hand here- the good will we've built up is invaluable. I'm really hoping (perhaps naively) that this could turn into a foothold for the community to push forward. I just don't see the LPC suddenly doing a 180° and saying:
"ok, actually we were wrong. In the face of falling support for this policy we will scrap it. All OICs are hereby removed! #elbowsup"
DOWN WITH WEBSTER COMENCES TO PLAY
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u/RelativeFox1 Mar 12 '26
Provincial governments can’t do that. But they can say this hoping you’ll vote for them next time.
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26
I understand they cant do it but they cant even talk about how its stupid?
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u/RelativeFox1 Mar 12 '26
Isn’t that what they are doing?
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26
No the focus is always on "the gun grab" not "the gun ban" 2 different things.
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u/RelativeFox1 Mar 12 '26
I would call them one and the same. They aren’t calling for an end to the confiscation but maintaining the ban.
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26
Sure doesnt sound that way from the words they use. You need to listen carefully to the words politicians actually use and not try to assume they mean something else that they aren't actually saying.
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u/i-Hermit Mar 12 '26
Because they're being realistic. We obviously want the bans reversed. I want a million dollars too. But the liberals are still in power and trying to get them to reverse the bans would amount to a fart in the wind. Particularly with that screeching harpy from poly in his party.
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26
They still need to talk about it. We cant change it by not talking about it. At this rate libs will end the gun buy back and just take the guns anyway.
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u/i-Hermit Mar 12 '26
From a provincial perspective this is probably considered a "stay in your lane" area. It's a federal matter, so commenting on that aspect is outside of their scope.
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u/xthemoonx Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
Talking about it is protected speech. The more bitching we do, the more pressure they get to reverse it. End of discussion(with me).
Edit: talking to your mp, email the pmo. Im personally done here.
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u/WSBBroker Mar 13 '26
It’s just kind of a pain.. I thought everyone was all ‘non compliance’ and now everyone is cheering yes let’s declare our NR prohibs and then apply for this exemption with hopes that the provincial gov will somehow get the feds to pay fair market value ?
Will this bill or change of legislation even stick ? Is going this path better than non compliance. Honestly all this is so confusing . The gov straight up screwed everyone .. again.
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u/TheeDirtyToast Mar 11 '26
Glad to see he was able to take a break from sucking off Carney.
Maybe Doug will come up for air now too.
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u/Saskatchewan-Man sk Mar 12 '26
Maybe they got sick of being knee jerk contrarians against EVERYTHING the Liberals do, and instead have simply acknowledged that we all need to work together on certain issues, while holding firm in others.
I appreciate Moe's departure from what he did under Trudeau. It was far too tribal and divisive. Its nice to see the Sask party acting like adults for a change.
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u/TheeDirtyToast Mar 12 '26
I was a bit harsh on him. He's been professional, I just don't like seeing these guys pretend to like Carney to get deals and then turn around and endorse Poilievre. Was pretty gross seeing Moe paraded to China with Carney.
At least he hasn't completely sold out like Ford has.
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u/Saskatchewan-Man sk Mar 12 '26
Politically, he fucking had to bend the knee for that China deal. The man is no genius, but he's smart enough to know he's beholden to the agriculture sector in this province. Sask farmers NEED access to that market right now. It was a shrewd political move to work with the Liberals on this.
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u/willysnax Mar 12 '26
I'm glad they are doing this at least but what I don't see as being necessary is having to register for an application to store what you have already. Why? If you have your PAL/RPAL, the feds already know what you bought. I guess the idea is they can present this list to the feds and negotiate a price for you. But if you don't register or whatever they are calling it, you should not have any issues storing your prohibs regardless.
It is just time buying atm but at least it's another layer of pressure on the feds to scrap this ridiculous program so, for now, a small, reserved cheer for us.
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u/DonAzuld Mar 11 '26
It seems a little double sided to me. They’re asking people who declare their firearms to protect them, somewhat what the RCMP is asking only in hopes of receiving payment. So they’re going to have a list of all newly prohibited firearms which will not be confiscated until further notice.
Unless the bans are reversed there is no winning.