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u/Sharp_Phrase_9066 Mar 10 '26

Liberal will likely get the majority they want after the three by elections. I am wondering what will happen to us. They will pass some bills against us? Forced buy back? Anything worse for us?

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u/Lumindan Mar 10 '26

Even with a majority, how will the execute the program?

The same problems that exist for the program now when they're a pseudo majority still exist for them as a true majority. (Execution, logistics, getting cops to buy into the program, getting owners to buy into the program, the significant man power requirements, administrative issues etc.). You have to remember this is the same government that can't even get a functional payroll system going. They can't even claw back COVID benefits despite people literally self doxxing to the highest degree with those.

It's more likely they'll maintain the wedge issue, throw in some OIC bans when they need media coverage and keep the can rolling down the road.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Mar 10 '26

What’s even left to OIC at this point? I have a feeling they don’t want to add more to there plate. As the more they add the more non compliance numbers will increase. I think at this point they will just keep up what’s been banned and keep kicking the can down the road and claim it being a ‘messaging.’ Issue.

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u/Lumindan Mar 10 '26

What’s even left to OIC at this point?

When the end goal is all firearms ownership, plenty. My personal suspicion is remaining semis ( SKS has a target on it, plenty of shotguns left too, a few stragglers in centre fire).

Then they'll move onto anything with a detachable magazine which will be rough. Once they justify that the goal post moves to "if we didn't allow 5 in the mag, why allow 5 in the tube". It's not hard to extrapolate how easy it is for them regardless of status

As the more they add the more non compliance numbers will increase. I

I honestly don't think that matters to them since no one holds our government accountable. Surely our new PBO will...

I think at this point they will just keep up what’s been banned and keep kicking the can down the road and claim it being a ‘messaging.’ Issue.

It's the long game, keep the wedge, maintain the illusion of safety, keep your friends employed and win some suburban votes. Plus they can spin it up when they need positive media coverage despite the outspoken criticism.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Mar 10 '26

Yes however that’s adding even more food to there plate. They are already struggling with the food they currently have. I doubt they want to add even more.

Sure but it’s becoming quite a embarrassment for them.

Which is why I doubt they will ban more stuff via OIC when they have not even dealt with the currently banned guns.

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 10 '26

They can and will always ban a few more when they need a cheap quick boost in popularity.  They can frame it however they want "evil gun lobby going around our bans!" Or whatever they want.  I fully believe they will ban more, and will need to to keep the gun hate going. 

My question is whats going yo happen with the court cases where they said "the gun buy back is legal because you are getting money" when no one gets money. Either the courts will need to go agaisnt it or something.

Either way, it gonna get worse before it gets better (it wont get better)

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Mar 10 '26

I would he curious to see what happens with the courts ngl.

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u/RydNightwish Mar 11 '26

I expect that the courts would side with the govt regarding bans at whim. I would likewise expect that the courts rule "MUST" on compensation and for market value. Otherwise it sets a truly bad legal precedent regarding expropriation.

Even the most koolaid drunk liberal SCC judge would see the disaster of uncompensated expropriation coming a mile away. Just look at the can of worms BC in thier infinite wisdom opened up by letting property deeds become a question of "maybe you do maybe you don't own your home. Let us consult the entrails"

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u/Fuck_you_all22 Mar 10 '26

Tactical sks. Made almost century ago. 

Well, manitoba has a bill to restrict machete. They will come up things to ban and restrict liberty and freedom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

I am wondering what will happen to us. They will pass some bills against us?

Probably, or just OIC

Forced buy back?

How?

Anything worse for us?

Gun-wise, probably not apart from more bans. Probably a lot worse in terms of privacy and general authoritarianism.

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u/DoYouGetSarcasm Mar 10 '26

Forced buy back?

They've already said they aren't paying most people who could participate and that it will be illegal to keep them after October and you'll be arrested if caught.

So they've already removed the "buy" part and added the "force" part.

I don't think they'll go door to door, the optics of that are just to bad and there's no votes to be hard for it.

They want to attack the sks but that's an attack on the FN, hard to tell how that will play out.

I feel like if they add new things with more oic bans after the declaration period is over that sets up the idea that you can't be compensated and is bad PR, maybe implies they would need to run another buy back to cover new items.

I will predict the backland Hunter gets prohibed some how. Just to throw some doom and gloom around

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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 10 '26

Unfortunately if the Backland goes then they more or less have to ban the M4, because it's the same operating system and you can't really ban one without the other as it would technically be a variant of the M4. We have seen them make stretches far bigger than that to ban guns by variant (I. E, Stirling R9 banned as AR180 variant if I recall correctly, despite only sharing a couple parts (maybe even only the trigger if I'm remembering right??) 

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u/boozefiend3000 Mar 10 '26

They can ban one over the other. Type 81 vs sks for example 

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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 10 '26

I literally was just thinking that too as I wrote that last comment. Too bad the natives didn't latch onto the T81 as well and call it a hunting rifle like the SKS. Funny how one is allegedly such a critical hunting rifle and the other an assault rifle. 

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u/Fuck_you_all22 Mar 10 '26

There is no logic. Nothing makes sense. 

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u/22GageEnthusiast Mar 10 '26

They will most likely win the two Toronto by-elections but Terrebonne will most likely go to the BQ.

What I recommend to any gun owner who lives in the Terrebone riding to do is to just vote for the BQ to make sure that the Liberals don't get their 172 seat majority.

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 11 '26

This aged well : (

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u/22GageEnthusiast Mar 11 '26

Yea unfortunately the Terrebonne by-election is meaningless now smh

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u/rastamasta45 Mar 10 '26

Not sure why everyone thinks once libtards go majority all of a sudden logistics change.

There is a critical critical critical police shortage that no police force can advertise right now, on top of that Canada is effectively bankrupt and simply printing money.

If they get a majority, the police forces don’t magically go “we must obey our new masters” and then dedicate precious officers to a boondoggle they publicly denounced.

There is now weekly synagogue shootings in Toronto and TPS said they can’t even have officers posted because of how short they are.

Going after law abiding citizens is simply not in their capacity and never will. Libtard majority or not, you can just magically produce a police force that’s going to fight for you. Remember Trudy effectively had 2 majorities during his reign of terror. Carney is staffed by 80% Trudy appointees, they’ll just fall flat on their faces as they always do.

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u/Fuck_you_all22 Mar 10 '26

I think you are giving libtards too much credit. What they did with trucker strike is how they will deal with anyone in their crosshairs. Freezing bank account just for donating money is some very draconian shit. If cops are ordered to, they have to obey lawful orders.

The way liberals are throwing money at boondoggle shits, they can go after good citizens at the expense keeping of law and order. 

I don't know what will happen, but expect very least pals being revoked and even single shot rifle becomes an illegal possession. I hope i am wrong.

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u/FunkyFrunkle Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

This is one thing I wish people would understand because it would save a lot of spiralling and anguish.

Making rules is one thing, enforcing it is another matter entirely. A liberal majority doesn’t really change much, and when it comes to gun control, they already have a defacto majority since BQ is more or less anti-gun. They’ve always had the numbers to pass more gun control garbage. It’s not a matter of getting anything passed, it’s making progress that’s the issue.

Parliament seat count has no bearing on the current state of the program, persisting logistical issues, manpower issues, financial issues, or provincial/police involvement.

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 10 '26

Always a possibility for it, which i believe it will get worse for us as it always goes. But some people here like to believe that the copium of it being "unenforceable " will stop them