r/canadaguns • u/x1x2x3xx • Feb 28 '26
Buy recommendations Poll: Need a .223 to burn ammo
I know one is a bolt action and the other is a straight pull, both would get a new AR Magpul stock / and buffer tube for the CZ, and both would get the LPVO treatment. Just looking at hitting steel in the 100-200 yard range, with some closer (50 yards and in) target shooting. Built quality and reliability is important to me. I have .223 ammo but no longer anything to shoot with so one of these would be it. Both rifles are basically the same price.
What’s your choice?
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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Mar 01 '26
Henry Supreme.
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u/x1x2x3xx Mar 01 '26
Looks like a great rifle, but not for me right now. I like Henry, have an X in .357
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u/dolcedente Mar 01 '26
It’s a good option for those who are itching to shoot what they’ve loaded in their Pmags.
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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Feb 28 '26
Unfortunately CZ's controversy has left a sour taste in my mouth. Was a big fan before, but can not purchase any more CZ stuff. Go Canadian with the MRA Renegade.
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u/x1x2x3xx Mar 01 '26
I hear you on that. Supporting Canadian is important to me. We don’t have many manufacturers like MRA making quality stuff, great point thx.
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u/Quirky-Delivery-3236 Mar 01 '26
Ya which is why imma get black creek over the trail and they make a 9.8 inch gun and I don’t really like the straight pull thing
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u/x1x2x3xx Mar 01 '26
How’s the black creek build quality/QC?
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u/Independent77 Mar 02 '26
I own an early serial Bison. I have experienced a few light strike issues. Contacted BCL for the firing pin/ Bolt upgrades. BCL warranty was quick to respond and ship parts. It extracts perfectly, with maybe one light strike in 600 rounds.
Buy with confidence.
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u/mithrajr Mar 01 '26
There is also the Howa 1500 Mini action in .223, similar value to the CZ and pretty positive reviews out there.
Ruger and Savage were cheaper but for a few hundred bucks more the Howa is a good option.
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u/Styrak Mar 01 '26
Keep the ammo.
Also your poll doesn't work.
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u/x1x2x3xx Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
Don’t worry I’ll save some. Ammo tends to last much longer when you’re not shooting semi auto..
Edit: poll works, over 80 votes now.
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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 01 '26
I think you gotta decide what you want more.
Folded up, the cz trail is the same size as the MRA. So do you want the compact short barrel, or do you want a longer barrel.
Straightpull vs bolt also leans towards the CZ Trail
However, pricewise, I believe the Trail can be found for a bit cheaper. Mine in 7.62x39 was only 990 bucks.
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u/x1x2x3xx Mar 01 '26
Just looking for opinions before making my final decision. Leaning towards shorter (MRA 12.5”). Right now both the Renegade MKII and the 600+ Trail are 1.5k.
What did you mean by this comment? “Straightpull vs bolt also leans towards the CZ Trail”
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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 01 '26
Ah sorry that was a mistyped. I mean leaning towards the MRA, as folks generally say a straight-up is better than a bolt action. Faster plus the possibility to add a pump action adaptor for it
If this helps, the Trail is 1200
https://g4cgunstore.com/product/cz-600-trail-223-rem-16-1-2-28-thread-black/
So definitely the cheaper option. I like mine, Even with the normal stock.
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u/x1x2x3xx Feb 28 '26
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u/CryptidWorks CryptidWorks Mar 01 '26
I have a trail in 7.62x39. Love it. Absolute tack driver. See my post history.
Be aware the 223/5.56 prefers things on the heavier side and may not hit its' accuracy potential with bulk 55gr. it'll likely be ~2MOA with 55/62gr, probably closer to 1MOA with heavier above-62 grain loads.
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Mar 15 '26
CZ for me bur CZ did sour my taste after their BS, I would say Henry Supreme or backland hunter. I have used gen2 Backland hunter and the accurancy is pretty darn immpresive
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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 01 '26
MRA is going to be more accurate than the cz600 trail. Trail only has 2moa guarantee and guys report 1-3moa. Plus MRA has some aftermarket available. I have a Troy SAR, similar straight pull AR ish rifle and I quite enjoy it. I also have a Cz600 Alpha and it is incredibly smooth with a fantastic trigger, but that's the Alpha not the trail, although I think the action is the same. CZ should have given the Trail an aluminum chassis instead of the plastic one it comes with.
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u/x1x2x3xx Mar 01 '26
Thx for your analysis! I forgot about the Troy straight pull, will have to take a look at those, not sure if it’s still available in Canada now. How do you like it, quality build and reliable?
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u/strickenchips Mar 01 '26
The CZ's1:7 twist is a bit much for 55 or even 62 grain projectiles, which is what most people have.
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u/Quirky-Delivery-3236 Mar 01 '26
Black creek labs in 223 they make a 12 inch and a 9.8 inch bolt gun
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u/Penguinbotxv Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
This is going to probably get down voted but here's 4 options that may be better Ruger American ranch gen 2 or patrol, Howa mini in a MDT chassis ,Tikka varmint or CTR, A lever in 223 here's looking at you henry. I know you want a short barrel gun but both those options are overall really mediocre. There's a lot of other options to explore