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u/Cooliecollie Feb 10 '23

What do you all think the chances of liberals pulling another stunts like banning semiautos through OIC or tabling a stand alone bill?

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube Feb 10 '23

It depends. We aren't going to see any amendments to C-21 (because of the out of order situation), and I think the LPC would like to take a win by passing C-21 after they nearly killed it all.

I highly doubt we see an OIC, especially before the court case. We should have the results of that case (it will likely be appealed no matter what) by the end of May. Depending on the decision, the LPC may be able to ban whatever it wants via OIC without explanation. If they get that outcome, then I think we will see an OIC as soon as some American shooting happens for them to piggyback on. However, if they don't get that outcome (even if they win the judge may limit the scope of future OIC bans), I don't think we see any OIC bans. Also,, aside from legal implications, it is incredibly poor optics to ban guns through executive measure when your democratic attempts failed. TL:DR on OIC is that it's possible, but not likely.

A future stand-alone bill is damn near guaranteed. The question is when. They do these gun bans because they impress dumb ass suburbanites and it appeases their anti-gun lobby friends. However, their failed attempts with G4/G46 has left a sour taste in many peoples mouth (people who would normally be supportive). Couple that with the LPC being seen as significantly out of touch and focusing on the wrong things, they can't risk further damaging their brand. I also think when they do want the attention back on guns, they want all the attention. So introducing it while another bill is currently in progress doesn't make sense. So, with all that said, I think we could see the standalone bill be presented in late 2023.

Here is something else to keep in mind, gun bills typically take 15-20 months to pass. If we are generous and use the next schedule election as the cutoff, the guaranteed DOA date is June 2024, and if we're lucky, it could be as early as January 2024. However, as I've said, I would shocked if we didn't get an election before 2025. The NDP should easily have enough money by Q1 2024 to run an election. Right now, the best thing we can hope for is a standalone bill because it is extremely likely to die in an election. We don't really have a choice, but all of our eggs are in the "CPC wins the next election" bucket. Because if they don't, say goodbye to all of your semi-autos.

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u/No-Adhesiveness-9866 Feb 10 '23

I’m honesty appalled that this government has banned guns twice via OIC. It is blatantly undemocratic to use an OIC to avoid voting on issues

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '23

Liberal voters are a different breed