r/canadaguns Oct 02 '22

Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions

This thread will be used for the "new"-type questions, PAL/RPAL applications, references, CFSC/CFRSC requirements, storage/transport, or other general "new-to-me" firearms ownership questions.

In response to this thread, the community was quite positive for a thread to cover these subjects.

These threads will be stickied for a week, renewing every Sunday @ about 0600 AST. Previous threads here. Take a look, your question may have been answered!

If you have any suggestions for this thread, please feel free to ask here, or send the Mods a message.

Thank you!

21 Upvotes

563 comments sorted by

View all comments

9

u/Grimmerthan Oct 04 '22

I was this old today when I learned that the buyer can initiate a restricted transfer.

I managed to get through to the CFP this afternoon to process two transfers as the buyer. I asked if I could conference in a 3rd person, the seller, to initiate another transfer.

The officer said they would not do a conference call, but they were happy to go ahead with initiating the transfer from my side, ie, the buyer's side.

Wait, wut?

They explained that as long as the buyer's name, phone number, and PAL number and serial or registration of the firearm is available, the transfer can be initiated by the seller . If the seller initiates, the buyer confirms. If the buyer initiates, the seller confirms.

Mind blown! On the RCMP page, for restricted and prohibited, there is no statement of order, just that the CFP must speak to both parties.

In my case, i was short firearm information, so I couldn't start it.

2

u/chillyrabbit Oct 05 '22

Interesting, the Firearms Act and Regulations doesn't put an order required for a restricted/prohibited transfer.

It just says that the transferor (seller) must inform the registrar of the transfer.

Authorization to transfer prohibited or restricted firearms

23.2 (1) A person may transfer a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm if, at the time of the transfer,

(a) the transferee holds a licence authorizing the transferee to acquire and possess that kind of firearm;

(b) the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is not authorized to acquire and possess that kind of firearm;

(c) the transferor informs the Registrar of the transfer;

(d) if the transferee is an individual, the transferor informs a chief firearms officer of the transfer and obtains the authorization of the chief firearms officer for the transfer;

(e) a new registration certificate for the firearm is issued in accordance with this Act; and

(f) the prescribed conditions are met.

23.2 (b) though is interesting as technically the seller hasn't checked that the buyer is authorized to acquire/possess that firearm.

Then again it's not like it's immediately obvious that a person has a Restricted license based on the number or look of the card, (besides the miniscule restricted printed on the back) and really the only way to check that they are authorized is to basically start a transfer.

1

u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 05 '22

You could, theoretically, mail in paper forms as well. Maybe you can FAX them.