r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Jun 13 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

Please post all your Politics or Ban-related ideas, initiatives, comments, suggestions, news articles, and recommendations in this thread. Unless new information is published in the media, recurring articles related to the gov'ts ***possible*** legislation are to be posted here. These threads will be weekly, until it's necessary for another per-week.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

Direct about what? I've been direct. This community needs to shift the narrative from sports shooting to self defence and property rights because the former is an obsolete argument. Is that not clear to you?

I've been saying this since I made a Reddit account.

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u/April_Ethereal Jun 13 '22

Self-defence as a primary purpose for firearms ownership in this country has absolutely terrible optics, and will not be seen as reasonable by most people whether you want to admit that or not. It's worse than the "nothing" you believe advocacy from a sporting standpoint provides as it actively harms public perceptions by feeding into opposition scaremongering.

If you pursue that as a serious narrative you're playing right into Poly and the LPC's hands; you'll be standing in for the straw man they've created that all the firearms they're banning aren't owned for sporting or hunting purposes.

Please stop doing free opposition research.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

Anyways, 50 more years of sports shooting. Who's with me?

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u/April_Ethereal Jun 14 '22

Ignore reality at your own peril; just don't expect others to join you quietly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

This "reality" is that a debate older than most of us on this subreddit has run its course. Time to change

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u/April_Ethereal Jun 14 '22

Change to what, the even older and more obsolete narrative of "firearms ownership primarily for self defence"? The same position that people took in the 1990s in the face of the current firearms act? The narrative position that failed then with a far more receptive population than we have now?

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22

We've been OICd left and right despite the positive reception, so it's not working.

It's literally only you so far who is so against what I'm saying. Other users agree but have different opinions on how to go about progressing the argument I'm advocating. Give it a rest. No one cares.

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u/April_Ethereal Jun 14 '22

I care about the continued use and ownership of my firearms (including my AR, and handguns). As such I'm going to continue to criticize positions that I think are counter productive, and advocate for the ones I think do have the potential for positive change. Clearly we disagree on your position, but I'll be damned if that's going to stop me from being vocal about that disagreement.

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u/throwa37 Jun 14 '22

I care about the continued use and ownership of my firearms (including my AR, and handguns).

Lol, you lost those already.

As such I'm going to continue to criticize positions that I think are counter productive

Counter productive? You lost. Your way not only doesn't work, it's completely failed you - your AR is slated for confiscation and you can't buy handguns.

You literally have nothing to lose.