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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '22

I support proportional, I just oppose ranked. I also oppose coalition rule because nobody voted for the semi-merged party

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u/pickledshallots Jun 12 '22

I could agree with you on proportional vs. ranked. I like proportional better too.

Coalitions are as old as democracy itself. It’s a natural part of the democratic process — 2 parties with similar goals work together. It’s happened on the right too (see: merger of the progressive conservative and canadian alliance)

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

t’s a natural part of the democratic process — 2 parties with similar goals work together.

It also shits all over people who may not have voted for party X if they knew they'd work with Y. For instance, a Liberal voter that often swings CPC may not vote Lib knowing that they'd form a coalition with the NDP. Coalitions basically throw a massive fuck you to the opposite wing of the party

It’s happened on the right too (see: merger of the progressive conservative and canadian alliance)

A merger is not a coalition. And mergers should trigger elections.

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u/pickledshallots Jun 13 '22

I disagree. If government is a “representation of the population,” then isn’t cooperation with others part of that? Sometimes I have to work on a project with someone that I don’t fully agree with and we find middle ground and complete the work.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

disagree. If government is a “representation of the population,” then isn’t cooperation with others part of that?

No, because if cooperation with the NDP lost the Liberals my vote, then a coalition is failing to represent me. If I was such a voter, I voted Liberal, not the average Liberal/NDP position which is obviously more NDP than I wanted. .

we find middle ground and complete the work.

Middle ground on gun control is always more gun control.

I wonder if Liberal fudds will still be making the same arguments in 40 years when they ban hunter-caliber boltys saying they're "sniper rifles".

Just use a crossbow bro, you don't need a 2-round bolt gun to take a deer!