r/canadaguns May 23 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

Please post all your Politics or Ban-related ideas, initiatives, comments, suggestions, news articles, and recommendations in this thread. Unless new information is published in the media, recurring articles related to the gov'ts ***possible*** legislation are to be posted here. These threads will be weekly, until it's necessary for another per-week.

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u/drain-angel BC May 29 '22

I mean I was thinking about it after I saw your comment last night, but it's also a thing that just crops up here enough to be annoying because clearly people want to repeat the same take ad nauseum despite it being explained very well why it's a poor take and it's clear it just stems from more personal belief than hard data.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

The way I see it, being a liberal voter and a gun owner are mutually incompatible** You see liberal gun owners parading around the fact that they're liberal on here to prove that they exist and that they're not like the others, for whatever that's worth (i.e. worthless). Like, what's the point? For lack of a better term it's self-sabotaging thinking and behavior. We're not fortunate enough to exist in a country where gun rights are relatively untouched by either side of the aisle. One side is actively trying to take away, the other side is neutral at worst or proactive at best. Idk what's so hard to understand about that.

I'm betting that the majority of them don't have any serious kit or firearms; they're missing the intent. I've said it before but guns and gun ownership shouldn't be treated like a casual hobby. Unfortunately, I think that liberal gun owners treat it as just a hobby - they couldn't care if their stuff gets forcefully confiscated. They have no skin in the game lol.

E: and as for the conversation rarely shifting to the Libs or NDP easing the anti-gun rhetoric, I think it's because those parties know their main voting demographics don't like guns. Those parties won't change. "Liberal" gun owners know that too. They can jump ship whenever

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u/April_Ethereal May 29 '22

This may be the "politics" thread, but your attitude is just outright divisive, and generally shitty towards people who don't view / treat firearms ownership the same way you do.

Minimizing (or eventually halting) the encroachment of ever stricter (and terminally ineffective) firearms policy in this country requires collective action. That means all of us working together against the torrent of misinformation propagated by the current government and special interest groups; advocating for more transparency in policy making and better data to work with.

What we definitely do not need is people going puritanical about firearms ownership and deriding people categorically over bullshit like "being too much of a casual". It accomplishes nothing and just further divides people who would otherwise have common interest. That's actual self-sabotaging behavior.

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u/drain-angel BC May 29 '22

I think everyone here understands that where firearms stand in terms of policy positions as a voter is fluid and isn't the same for everyone. The point is that those who have positions that supercede it and decides that they should vote elsewhere, but yet see firearms big enough of a policy should be working with their own political ingroups instead of trying to tear down the only one who has, so far, at least represented firearm owners.

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u/April_Ethereal May 29 '22

I understand what your original comment was about; that's not what I was responding to.