CZ 600 Trail 7.62x39

[u/Oetter83]

I haven’t had it for long. Put about a hundred cheap rounds through and taken on two hunting trips

I love the compact, handy size of it. The pistol grip it comes with feels good. No complaints about the action. Trigger is nice and really light. Paired with the Aimpoint I find getting on target is quick. Accuracy was surprisingly good off the bench but I’ve never shot it past 100 yards and majority was at 60 yards.

I really like this gun but it’s far from perfect. The narrow handguard doesn’t have enough clearance to add a Magpul MLok QD sling mount, it’s not even close to enough clearance to tighten the screws without touching the barrel. I find the mag really needs to be slammed in for it to catch and it really doesn’t like it be inserted on a closed bolt.

It’s not a precision rifle and I don’t know if I’d recommend it if you’re just looking for a range toy (at least until u/Cryptidworks gets their standard capacity mags to market) but if you’re wanting a handy little carbine for deer or something easy to carry for backcountry trips it’s great. Awesome grab gun, go innawoods type carbine

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[u/timuncle]

barely saw anything about this gun up until I bought one last month. Now I am seeing them everywhere!

[u/CryptidWorks]

I run my QD mount on the slot directly in front of the magazine (which is M-Lok compatible, though slightly out of spec) when I have my sling in a two-point configuration. It works :)

Most of the time I run it single-point with the sling in the butt pad, because you can carry it at your side if you're heckin' tall like me, like a little PDW. Pressing the release makes it extend with gravity and you can shoulder it very quickly. If you run an LBE (I run a modern SMERSH style rig from Ukraine called a Sputnyk-Gear Selous-RAID) the whole thing props very nicely over a mag pouch to distribute weight.

The trigger is amazing, yeah. I have mine set to the lowest setting. Makes shooting it mad minute style real fun ;)

As for the mags, I hope to bring those out one day, but releasing them commercially is a mountain I was not sufficiently equipped to climb.

I've gotten so many conflicting answers from the powers that be on my inquiries into rules in that regard that it will be safest for me to hold off, release the other CZ600 Trail stuff I designed which is much less bureaucratically tricky/design more (I'd like to make a Magwell insert compatible with MRX bison and STANAG mags, for example), and shift it to a long term plan when I have the time or resources to get properly set up for it, or partner with an existing company that is.

I know it's not the news anyone wanted to hear, and I apologize for letting you guys down for now. Again, I still hope to bring them out eventually, but I'm not sure when that'll be.

[u/Oetter83 → u/CryptidWorks]

Not surprised with that at all. Canadian government and firearms is not a good mix and from what I’ve heard magazines are one of the most complex components to try get production done on.

The trigger really caught me off guard. I didn’t even know it was adjustable

I have my sling attachment mounted there because I didn’t feel like grinding down the screws

[u/CryptidWorks → u/Oetter83]

Magazines are particularly hard to design, and modern small scale production isn't bad, but holy hell getting a straight answer about the requirements to be able to produce them commercially while not running afoul of the rules is basically the Canadian gun enthusiast's version of Sysiphus. 🫠

Ah well, at least I can still finish/release the other stuff in the meantime.

And yeah, the trigger was a surprise for me too. Absolutely ruined a few other guns' triggers for me because it's so shockingly good. Two-stage with a 1.5 lb break and drop safe? On a gun that can be found for $1100 on sale (or less!) if you're lucky? Wild.

[u/Oetter83 → u/CryptidWorks]

I’ve just wrapped the sling around the handguard (kinda reminds me of the commando from Black Ops 1 now)

Thanks for the recommendation on it in August Really enjoying it and hoping to get more range time with it this weekend, I’ll try the single point sling set up next time as well

https://i.imgur.com/lXe0SnC.jpeg

[u/CryptidWorks → u/Oetter83]

A fellow Trail and Finnish M05 enjoyer? Damn, dude, I like the cut of your jib.

That's actually not a bad idea for a few reasons - I'll help keep your hands from getting cold in sub zero weather too :)

[u/wanderinghunter1996]

I got one awhile back and it has become my favorite rifle for everything.

[u/IndiscreetTreat]

The MLOK thing is annoying. I’ve got mine in 223 and I had to trim the MLOK screws to make that front fire grip fit properly. Otherwise awesome little gun. If they make one in 308 I’m ALL over it.

[u/CryptidWorks → u/IndiscreetTreat]

For general stuff, like standard rails etc, you can buy shorter (I think they're 10mm rather than 12mm) M-Lok screws. They work without the fuss.

[u/CryptidWorks → u/IndiscreetTreat]

For general stuff, like standard rails etc, you can buy shorter (I think they're 10mm rather than 12mm) M-Lok screws. They work without the fuss. Magpul's Chonky specific screws are another beast, though.

And yeah, if they release one in .308 I am buying it so fast my credit card is breaking the sound barrier. Would probably be my ideal rifle.

[u/Some-Owl8102]

lower optic mount and it would be perfect 

[u/Scary-Detail-3206]

I run a 1-6 LPVO on mine and it’s quite capable on the gongs out to 300 yards.

I also got rid of the stock and put the AR buffer tube adapter in. I’ve got several thousand rounds of corrosive through it and it’s a sweet little range toy.

I’d like to take it whitetail hunting, but I’ve got better rifles for that purpose.

[u/TheObviousNovice]

That is a wicked little setup! I wish they made them for left handed shooters.

[u/rankuwa]

You getting many lights strikes with this? Had an Alpha in 7.62 that was fantastic other than that!