r/canadaguns 14h ago

Gun and gear reviews How some Canadians companies stand by their product.

With Sterling Arms standing up for themselves against the prohibited classification the RCMP put on the R9, and winning, it got me thinking about the Crusader Arms Crypto. Those guys came out with a rifle that met the new laws, then pumped out a bunch of beyond subpar rifles with worse than Chinese QC. Made a pile of cash and as soon as it was banned, did nothing to stand up for their product. Instead created another piece of garbage.

Not to just bash CA (well, maybe a little, actually a lot), we now have seen what a good Canadian firearms manufacturer does. Makes a product, stands by it, then fights for it. Their win, to me anyway, shows what companies we should actually support.

After CA removed their website, blocks peoples comments on Instagram that comment the issues they have with their new Backland Hunter rifles I am genuinely shocked anyone can still support them by giving them a dime.

Anyway, I'm kind of curious what other people's thoughts are on CA doing nothing to fight for the rifle they developed, that also being a fight for their customers base. Especially now that we have seen Sterling Arms having being successful with their R9 reclassification. Will this maybe get them to take a stance for the crypto classification?

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u/GodsGiftToWrenching 14h ago

I don't think the Crypto will get reclassified, It's, and let's be real here, it's an AR-15 with a proprietary mag well and recievers, recivers, mind you, have altered cam pin pocket dimensions which leads to catastrophic failures in the form of the bolt locking in place from premature cam pin movement.

And the shadyness from Cringesader is nothing new, even when their Gen 1 POS teemplar rifles were out people would call them out for khyber pass quality and soviet war time machining as well as operational failures, and same thing, they would delete and block anything negative about them online. I remember one guy ordering his gen 2 Templar from cringesader, full price of course, and when they send him the rifle the machining was rough, fit and finish was really bad as in unfinished edges, patchy coating, as well as apprentice marks all over the thing, laser engraving being off of center on parts, and when he reached out to Cringesader saying essentially " wtf why did you charge me full price for an absolute blemish model, I would like a partial refund in lieu of a blemish model discount or a new better QC rifle" Cringesader essentially told him to pound sand and that their sad excuse of finishing is just what it do.

And one more point, it's really cool the R9 is getting declassified as a pistol and the RC9 is awaiting it's FRT status, but I kinda hoped that the R9 being declassified would have been the end sterling in Canada... only because JR Cox is the leader of the whole operation and he got the Swiss Arms Classic Green and CZ 858 banned just because he was jealous and wanted to be the sole importer of them instead of his old business partners (who kicked him out) being the primary importers of said arms

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u/TescoValueSoup 2h ago

altered cam pin pocket dimensions which leads to catastrophic failures in the form of the bolt locking in place from premature cam pin movement

Tell me more about this please?
The crypto I know about had ~3000 rounds through it and only had one failure to eject when it was under 50 rounds

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u/GodsGiftToWrenching 2h ago

Was your crypto and earlier model? The first handfuls of batches were made to normal specs in regaurds to the race way, however for some reason mid production Cringesader changed the cam pin dimensions which of course created issues, the guys at RDSC saw a few come through that were completley stuck because the cam pin started turning prematurely

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u/TescoValueSoup 1h ago

The one I know about (no need to snitch on me on Reddit brother) was first batch, pre-order.
There was a second upper bought near to the ban date that was also well finished.
Both were home builds, not pre-built models.

I have seen some with pretty bad "apprentice marks", but never heard of any being unreliable or having "catastrophic failures" like you described. Not saying it didn't happen, just that it doesn't match with feedback from those around me who had them