Will the new Tarrifs drive up Gun Prices?

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443]

Just was wondering if these new 50% tarrifs will drive up the cost of new firearms coming from America?

Eg. Carmel and Makasi ?

I read over the list and all the items and it doesnt say anything about firearms/parts/accessories/scopes/ammunition

Am i missing something?

I dont really feel like paying another 50% on top of the price of the Carmel and I dont think anyone else here does either

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443]

The new retaliatory tarrifs go into effect September 8th

[u/PteSoupSandwich]

New tarrifs? LoL I don't give a fuck if I go blind, I don't need to see the price tag anyway.

[u/mwmwmwmwmmdw → u/PteSoupSandwich]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9CFPhqZrjo

[u/New_Patience_8938]

If i remember correctly the first round of tarrifs affected "sporting goods".

[u/No_Maybe4408 → u/New_Patience_8938]

But the septum ringed blue hairs tell me they are absolutely not sporting goods at all.

[u/Top-Consequence-4217 → u/No_Maybe4408]

Septum ringed blue hair here. I own more guns than you.

[u/Saskatchewan-Man → u/Top-Consequence-4217]

Hey, Don't you go ruining this guy's Boomer Facebook meme level conceptions of reality now.

/s

[u/Blackwalls69 → u/Saskatchewan-Man]

Perception*

[u/DryF1re → u/Top-Consequence-4217]

sounds like you shouldnt own any

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[u/No_Maybe4408 → u/Top-Consequence-4217]

Probably not.

[u/TehSvenn → u/No_Maybe4408]

Regardless, quit trying to "us vs them" this and take the support, even if someone looks different from you. Don't be a divisionist loser.

[u/Eglitarian → u/TehSvenn]

Yeah, our hobby thrives when everyone can feel like they’re welcome to do it.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Eglitarian]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1hAxQTH0HEWS3L0oRF

[u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES → u/TehSvenn]

Lmao last I checked it wasn’t conservatives pushing policies to strip away guns. 

[u/Murray3-Dvideos → u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

Getting down voted for posting a straight fact. Lol. Ah the reddit experience..

[u/VanillaHighlights → u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

It's not a binary system, Budd. 

Go far enough left and we're frothing for boomsticks.

[u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES → u/VanillaHighlights]

That’s what they say and then suddenly only the government has guns. Even worse than what we have now. See USSR and Cambodia and North Korea for reference. For a modern example please look at Cuba. Funny how that works eh? Already know what you are gonna say. “That wasn’t real socialism!”

[u/TehSvenn → u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

So how do you figure pushing people away from the hobby and community will make any of that better? Sounds like you'd rather just whine than work to improve things.

I don't give a fuck if someone calls themselves a liberal or a conservative. If someone wants to improve firearms regulations away from the joke of a system we have now, I'm gonna support that. I don't give a shit of they're straight or gay, I don't care if they've got blue hair, I don't care if they have piercings. None of that changes them being on the side of common sense gun control, and I'm not gonna push them away.

Hell, they're probably gonna have a whole lot more luck convincing those who've been propagandized against firearms than I am. And the more people can be shown the rational way, the happier I'll be.

[u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES → u/TehSvenn]

One day you’ll realize that the LPC voters that are gun owners don’t care about the sport but by then it’ll be too late. Did you see any of them vote for PP to save guns? I sure didn’t. And yes I’m a single issue voter on guns. One side wants total bans. Other side wants reasonable limits. By bringing more LPC voters into the sport you are just gonna get even more bans. How long until some lib thinks lever guns can be operated too fast and need to be banned? Or that pump actions are too quick?  

[u/VanillaHighlights → u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

Your determination in  the imagined side of my argument is exactly what those in power want  you to do. 

Divide, divide, divide.

See you at the local trap range, I'll gladly spot you a box of shells for a chat - comrade.

[u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES → u/New_Patience_8938]

Libs told me guns can’t be used for sporting purposes tho! You are a MAGA Canadian! Mark Carney wouldn’t lie! Elbows up!

[u/Relevant_Diver_3228 → u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

My good sir you speak nothing but the truth/s

[u/LumberjackCDN]

Time to start shooting Norma and Sako instead of Hornady or Federal. And to be honest, the price increases this past year from Hornady and Federal due to the US tariffing components needed to make things like primers and powders, Norma and Sako ammo has become competitive price wise with those brands (hell in some cases Norma whitetail is now cheaper on my shelves than federal blue box).

Theres non-us based options out there to keep you shooting and your wallet not exploding. But yeah definitely super disappointing news.

[u/Lumindan → u/LumberjackCDN]

Didn't federal also just land a huge deal supplying our military lol? That'll be awkward

Edit - found it.

Source

Federal Ammunition was recently awarded contracts to supply two Canadian law enforcement organizations with rifle and shotgun ammunition for duty and training purposes. These agreements will supply the Department of National Defense (DND) with 300 Blackout duty and training rounds, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) with 12-gauge slugs and buckshot duty loads.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Lumindan]

Yup. Super interesting stuff. If half the things that are reported to be the deal breakers turn out to be true no sane govt would have agreed, especially the stuff about us not being able to make our own trade deals with other countries.

Like i said super disappointing. But what can ya do. Hopefully my shop survives but its looking like its going to be a tough 2 and a half years.

[u/Lumindan → u/LumberjackCDN]

Hopefully my shop survives but its looking like its going to be a tough 2 and a half years.

I want to believe that firearms owners will keep supporting local businesses. I just bought a few thousand rounds from my local store (not a massive order but not small).

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Lumindan]

Ive already noticed a slow down. Could just be the weather and the fact we havent had much of a summer here, but i also cant discount 2 dollar diesel eating into peoples fun money. I know it has my own.

[u/Lumindan → u/LumberjackCDN]

There will hopefully be a spike coming up with hunting season too.

Funny enough my local range saw an uptick of members this year (but that could be an outlier).

But you're on the ball there, cost of living goes up which means less money to throw at fun stuff.

[u/Scary-Detail-3206 → u/Lumindan]

The past 4 times I’ve been to our range on the weekend, there has been an orientation for new members with 4-5 people. Might just be all the people moving to Alberta though.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Lumindan]

One can hope. The hunting season ramp up should kick off shortly which will help for sure.

[u/Flat-Dark-Earth → u/LumberjackCDN]

I have exclusively bought European ammo since the beginning of 2025. There is some good stuff with Norma and Sako, and affordable options with PPU and S&B.

Last 5 gun purchases were also from Europe.

[u/Lumindan → u/Flat-Dark-Earth]

Eley gang rise up.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Flat-Dark-Earth]

Yup same, im moving all my stuff slowly from federal to norma, sako and eley as i run out of the stuff i already have.

[u/LongRoadNorth → u/LumberjackCDN]

As you should anyways. Hornady is over priced garbage in my experience.

The Sako TRG groups way better and is cheaper.

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[u/airchinapilot]

Haven't seen a list of counter-tariffs yet. Carney only announced it today so we will have to wait to see if anything will affect gun imports.

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/airchinapilot]

From what they are saying the retaliatory tarrifs will be on the exact same products that the US has imposed on us

If thelist is different and they add firearms/accessories we are Fked

[u/Bynming → u/Mysterious_Sleep7443]

I doubt it'll be the same products, the aim is to match their tariffs dollar for dollar so the tariffs are likely to be different categories. I could be wrong, could you tell me where you read that?

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[u/Djbluntz42069 → u/airchinapilot]

-Tariffs start to affect steel imports/exports both ways
-Firearms made of steel

I don’t see this not becoming a problem (naturally or panic manufactured by companies to explain why their prices just had to go up)

[u/Lashiech]

I suspect it depends on which sectors the retaliatory tariffs are applied to, or if they even go into effect. We're in a sit and wait sort of moment while the dust settles.

[u/CanadaFootyFan]

If you mean the tariffs Canada is imposing in retaliation, they aren’t public yet.

If you mean the tariffs America is imposing, that’s not how they work.

[u/Neat_Imagination2503]

Well we’ve been told they are weapons of war, not sporting goods so we should be fine

[u/yummybunnybear → u/Neat_Imagination2503]

I'm sure any tariff would be voluntary anyway

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/Neat_Imagination2503]

LMFAO!!!! Best reply in this thread!

[u/OwnedByIRVING]

That's not how tariffs work, years into this and people still haven't figured it out.

[u/LordRaizer]

If it does, I'm gonna be eating only instant ramen and dirt for the next few months

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[u/kaydenb3]

I believe my Makasi preorder offers a full deposit refund if any pricing changes before arrival 

[u/Johnny-Unitas]

It will drive up the price of anything coming from the US in all likelihood.

[u/LongRoadNorth]

I mean my shotgun got hit with tariffs when this first started the other year. That absolutely fucking sucked to pay an extra 20% on.

Time will tell. I'm happy that I just checked and at least the powder I use is actually from Australia

[u/Murray3-Dvideos]

Itl all be over in a few months anyways. Trumps going to get graped in the Mid Terms.... then impeached. Wab Canoe sees it and said it best. I like that guy more and more each day haha.

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443]

For anyone interested, the countertariffs have been published. Guns/Ammunition/Optics are NOT on the list

https://www.canada.ca/en/department...t-us-products-subject-to-counter-tariffs.html

[u/SquallZ34]

Doesn’t matter to me, not buying anything American anyways.

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/SquallZ34]

Lol keep buying Turkish and you wont have any guns that are safe enough to shoot in no time

[u/LongRoadNorth → u/Mysterious_Sleep7443]

Who's buying Turkish?

The Finn's and Italians have great offerings

[u/Boetie83 → u/SquallZ34]

European firearms tend to be higher quality anyway.

[u/IAMURBUNKLE → u/SquallZ34]

Why? 

[u/TheR3dMenace]

Is Carmel coming from US? Or Israel?

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/TheR3dMenace]

Its coming from IWI US in Tennessee

[u/__phil1001__ → u/Mysterious_Sleep7443]

That's the mistake, they put all offices in the US and treat us as an extension. We need our own head offices and direct imports

[u/Reasonable_Hall2346 → u/__phil1001__]

Nobody in business will take on that risk with the current government, or even future governments. Imagine investing millions into your company, and over night your products become illegal. Its already happened over and over here...

[u/__phil1001__ → u/Reasonable_Hall2346]

Agreed but what are the other options, stay vulnerable to every whim of the US.

[u/Reasonable_Hall2346 → u/__phil1001__]

Its not the whims of the US that has gotten us like this in the firearm hobby. Its the whims of emotional and illogical decisions by our incompetent government. The only reason we can't have non-US alternatives is because of all the bans. I'd rather have a Raven or a Sterling Arms R18 MK3 rather than the Carmel and Makasi. Both of which would have directly supporting Canadian companies/operations. But yeah no apparently too scary.

Use the Sterling Arms R9 as an example. It was the Canadian "alternative" to the only other 9mm (Henry Homesteader). Look at what happened to it...

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/TheR3dMenace]

Israel but if it lands in the US it becomes a problem. Ran into this with vortex last year. Scopes arent us made but landed there and were tarriffed by the US, before coming up to us.

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/LumberjackCDN]

Are you sure its Israel?

I was under the impression its from the US ?

Are they coming from Israel and being rebarreled at IWI in Tennessee?

[u/Iokua_CDN]

That's my secret, I'm just skipping American guns for the near future.  I'm more of a budget firearm guy,  so the Carmel and Makasi weren't on the menu anyways, but my business is going to other countries.

[u/Flat-Dark-Earth]

We imposed 25% tariffs on guns imported from the USA in 2025.

Likely see something similar this time around.

[u/AssignmentPutrid3197 → u/Flat-Dark-Earth]

The carmel is made in America?

[u/AssignmentPutrid3197 → u/[deleted]]

How incredibly disappointing.

Won't be on my potential buy list anymore.

[u/Flat-Dark-Earth → u/AssignmentPutrid3197]

Google telling me it is produced in both Israel and Middletown, Pennsylvania.

I’d assume wherever the Tavors that Canada received were made, that’s where the carmels will come from.

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/[deleted]]

Why havent you bought a Henry Homesteader yet?

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/[deleted]]

Yes you can order different stocks/handguards

Just dont buy anything from Tommy Enterprises its Garbage

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/[deleted]]

Bro $1300 is peanuts these days

Plus you have all the mags from your FX9 to use in the Henry

Dont sit on the sidelines, you only live once

You can always make more money, but might not be able to buy a certain gun

Look at your FX9 for example, its priceless, you cant purchase it anymore

[u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 → u/[deleted]]

Stay away from that Turkish garbage

Get on the wait list for the Carmel if your going to buy anything semi auto

You will need to but 2 or 3 of the Adler Arms because when the first one breaks down you will need a doner gun for parts

For the price of 2 or 3 Adler arms your into it for the same price as a Carmel