r/canadaguns • u/Buckisop • Aug 06 '26
Feets / Collection / My build IWI Carmel 16.5" with faux suppressor
As titled. It is not as heavy as people thinks.
For reference, I used to run a PEQ15 on a 16.5" Bren 2 and they ran very similarly weight-wise as the PEQ15 was an extra lb on the Bren.
I might take the faux suppressor off after some range test.
Edit: It is about 10.5lb as it stands. I do have a Surefire Scout light on the other side. Without the faux suppressor it is about 9.7lb. I rather suffer additional weight to not see the pencil barrel.
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u/Major-Ad-4288 Aug 06 '26
where is the extra pound coming from? the barrel is a pencil right? is it a steel upper or something?
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
Yup, pencil barrel. The whole barrel assembly weights significantly more than the Bren's bareel assembly.
The handguard is significantly thicker (taller) too.
The metal reinforced polymer adds some weight as well.
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u/vancouverpanda Aug 06 '26
The gun is made from steel not aluminum. People say its a polymer gun, no its not it has polymer Overtop of steel. The core of the receiver is still heavy steel
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u/Traditional_Bank2200 Aug 06 '26
Idk why people are bitching about weight, it’s a valid consideration. Especially if your end goal is to build the one rifle + all the kit required. You gotta be fit, but the old adage is that ounces = pounds = pain. Saving weight where you can is important, mountain hunters know this well.
Nice rifle OP. Please mag dump into trash for all the homies with their rifles on lockdown right now.
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u/DougMacRay617 Aug 06 '26
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
It is growing on me slowly
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u/DeadEndStreets Aug 06 '26
All of yall need to hit the gym immediately if you’re splitting hairs over 8,9, and 10 lbs.
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u/numbdigits Aug 07 '26
Being restricted I don't see what the big deal over weight is anyway, it's going to the range, it'll never be carried any great distance there.
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u/SpinachStunning5547 Aug 06 '26
I don't understand people saying this gun is ugly. Ok, the 18.5" version with no fake can is weird looking but this looks good imo. Plus you get to shoot the Kharod from stalker
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u/v-infernalis Aug 06 '26
Cons: Ugly Heavy Thin barrel Israeli product
Pros: It works
Thank you liberals for putting us in this shitty predicament
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u/Vsatbtw Aug 06 '26
I’m just happy see another semi auto. Sick of the straight pull ars or pump action ars
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u/22GageEnthusiast Aug 06 '26
What's with people complaining about a lb difference in weight lol.......like it's gonna make a fuckin difference. If anything a heavier gun means less recoil and more stability.
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
People wants to find a reason to hate on this gun based on personal preferences without actually handling the gun.
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u/22GageEnthusiast Aug 06 '26
IMO given the limited options the Carmel seems to be the best overall 223/556 semi auto rifle on the Canadian gun market atm. Even though there's a few other options, none of them seem to hold up well.
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
Absolutely.
Makasi could've been good and can still be better with the right modification and tweaks.
Backland Hunter is not bad but there are too many lemons.
AD500 is solid but I dont like the looks.
Handling all of these after running our own testing, Carmel > Backland Hunter > AD500 > Makasi
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
Makasi has good potential, but the QC is horrible. It needs a complete overhaul of the front section (handguard, barrel assembly, gas block remade)..
We changed the gas setting and it was still giving random variety of stoppages. And yes, we cleaned, lubed and tried different ammo.
After 200 rounds of struggle, it was finally making through a mag of 10 but not consistent enough.
On top of that 4.5 moa with range ammo is crazy to me.
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u/TescoValueSoup Aug 06 '26
Carmel is advertised as 8lb 2oz
Bren 2 is ~7lb 3oz
Why haven't you mentioned the actual weight of yours, instead of just describing it subjectively?
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
It is about 10.5lb as it stands.
I am describing how I see fit without coming here with an agenda like your comment.
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u/TescoValueSoup Aug 06 '26
No agenda, but the gun is objectively heavy right out of the box.
If the 16.5" you have is 10lb once you put your toys on it, people considering the 18" might benefit from knowing the weight as part of making an informed purchase.-2
u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
18.6" NR version is another 0.5lb heavier IIRC.
16.5" CZ Bren 2 weights 7.3 lb out of box and is considered light.
16.5" IWI Carmel weighs 8.125lb out of box and somehow is "end of the world" heavy? Give me a break. Your agenda is very clear.
My build is for my need, skill sets and most importantly my taste. This weight does not impede my active drill speed. If I just slap on a red dot and a light, this is easily under 9lb for being a range toy.
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u/TescoValueSoup Aug 06 '26
Who said end of the world heavy? Now you're being silly. All I asked is for you to give us a number rather than your written opinion as that will be more informative for others who may not share your opinion on what is or isn't heavy.
Again, no agenda. I'll probably end up getting one. Enjoy your purchase, and be less insecure.
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
All weight can be found online with a 2 seconds Google search 😮😮😮
Im very secure and loving this purchase so far.
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u/brandongoldberg Aug 06 '26
What is the faux suppressor?
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u/Buckisop Aug 06 '26
I had a reverse TNA faux suppressor with side ports initially, but it exposes the writing on the side. Right now I have a Pike Arms reverse faux suppressor on it.
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u/conanap Aug 06 '26
This is the R or NR? The NR’s looked so long, but idk if it’s the reverse suppressor playing perspective tricks on me
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u/Major-Ad-4288 Aug 06 '26
i like the starship troopers look