r/canadaguns Jul 11 '26

Fix my gun Help with screw removal!

Update

I drilled those screws out, 3 of them came out easily enough that I think I did not mess up the threads. I only botched 1. I am sure 3 screws and some locktight mixed with hope will hold the rail in place

Just got myself a Mossberg 590 Shockwave. Want to mount a laser/red dot on top of the receiver but not sure what type of screw these are. Internet says they should be flathead but they are clearly not. Can someone help with some tips please?

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u/ThrowRA_That_Owl_25 Jul 11 '26

Look like hex screws that have been stripped.

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u/Bearchill Jul 11 '26

Like the other poster said, it looks like stripped out or poorly manufactured allen head cap screws. Try some allen keys in both metric and standard, you might get lucky. Otherwise, get yourself a good set of torx sockets. You can use one that is only slightly oversized and hammer it into the hole. The points of the torx should be lined up with the corners of the hex hole and they will cut themselves a place to grip. You may also need heat, however, the shock from the hammering usually helps break it free.

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u/nobodyspecial506 nb Jul 11 '26

I don't actually think these are torx screws. They look close to it but all the pieces in the middle I believe are the anti theft locking type. You need a custom bit to remove these guys.

Also looks like someone tried to remove these guys without the hardware and royally fucked some of em

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u/pm_me_your_brass Jul 11 '26

They're not torx screws, but you can use a torx bit to act somewhat like a screw extractor.

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u/Horilka Jul 11 '26

If gun is new - warranty replacement. If no return is possible - a quality screw removal kit, read the manual or watch videos, if you do it right it can be done.

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u/BuyRelevant1000 Jul 11 '26

Removing rounded Bolts is easy with a drill (low speed) and a 10$ kit from home depot. I've recently had to do the same and found the dewalt bits work best. Avoid the kit from Canadian tire loll. 

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u/567432Gains Jul 11 '26

If it’s new I would straight up return it if possible

Edit* not that I’m saying it’s actually broken or anything beyond the screws. But stripped screws like that on a brand new product (assuming it’s brand new) is wild.

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u/Zork_13 Jul 11 '26

Damn they're all like that? Who ever you bought that from is a supreme idiot. They're probably stuck in place with loctite, god forgbid they're the wrong thread pitch. If a screw extractor isn't working you need heat. Depending ln the hardness of the screw you'll want to get Irwin brand, jumbo flute, screw extractors for the hardest metal (such as stainless). If they're just mild steel you can get the surprisingly great topec brand from amazon.

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u/hafetysazard Jul 11 '26

Did you destroy those screws?

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u/Sogone2day Jul 11 '26

Easy out extractors

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u/greekdude1821 on Jul 11 '26

if you have a dremel or hacksaw and a steady hand you can cut a slot and use a flathead screwdriver.

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u/EnggyAlex Alex's Homebrew Jul 12 '26

You can get helicoil to fix that last hole you messed up

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u/BrettFromThePeg Jul 11 '26

Do you own a tig welder?