r/canadaguns • u/moonpie_888 • 25d ago
News / Politics / Activism Where is the Accountability? 🇨🇦
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u/rastamasta45 25d ago
I mean all solid points, however that’s exactly the point, punishing gun owners is how they avoid accountability.
Nova Scotia was the biggest police / RCMP failure ever, and Trudy made sure to do a parade on AR15’s and how he stood up to the gun lobby and America by banning them. Just like that the entire country was distracted from the fact our police let mass shootings happen.
The gun bans are the best distraction ever.
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u/DimGrows 25d ago
I am STILL angry that they let that man run rampant for so many hours, knowing which section of highway he was on, not stopping the public from passing through it, and only alerting us with a tweet. Because we all use twitter and all follow the RCMP on twitter. There were SO many failures by the horse police for that incident to have happened, but them trying to suggest that a tweet is acceptable as notice of a mass shooting gets me so worked up.
Then our prime minister turning around and absolutely failing us by colluding with Lucki (and probably poly, given what I’ve seen from them since) to obstruct the investigation so that he can do some virtue signalling BS about ar15’s being evil… ugh.
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u/Office_Responsible 25d ago
Well the RCMP is incompetent as fuck. They have repeatedly failed and yet they always avoid accountability. Both at the lower and higher levels.
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR 25d ago
But mostly the upper levels... its basically run like a branch of the military. If you have higher ups that are complete idiot douchebags, it's like a rudderless ship... if you have great competent leadership, itll run like a Swiss watch. We have to be sure that the people in those positions of influence have the right genitalia though... thats super important.
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u/Office_Responsible 25d ago
Well the lower level guys also shot up a fire hall so it’s all levels. The whole thing needs a windows reboot. The upper levels make it impossible to get better but also hide failings to make them selves look better
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR 24d ago
Yeah.. but im at the point now where I gotta wonder if that ever even happened... regardless.. there are complete muppets in the ranks of every organization, but my tolerance for that kind of incompetence runs out when were talking about leadership.
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u/Additional-Monk-6434 25d ago
We must draw a clear line between 'accidental shooting mishaps' and 'intentional gun crimes.'
Gun regulation should be utilized solely as a safeguard against accidents. It is a mistake to think regulations can deter criminal acts; instead, our focus should be on crime prevention. (Advocating for an AR-15 ban, for example, is not the solution to stopping violent crime.)
Seriously, what is the point of facing a criminal and chanting, 'Abracadabra Wingardium Leviosa! You can't use an AR-15'? It’s completely pointless.
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u/Additional-Monk-6434 25d ago edited 25d ago
I stumbled upon an interesting, albeit concerning, fact about the police in Canada: they allegedly only conduct live-fire training once a year, limited to just 30 rounds, and lack specialized training in firearm control.
I don't know for certain if this is true—it’s the kind of repulsive nonsense often spewed by gun control advocates—but if it is true, it’s alarming. It means they’re openly carrying Glocks despite being fundamentally undertrained. How can anyone with a straight face claim that this is enough to stop gun-related crimes? What exactly are they trying to achieve?(What's worse is that they’re trying to pin the responsibility on PAL holders)
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u/AJourneyer 25d ago
It's been said a number of times that many of the gun owners (legal ones) in Canada have more range time in one season than many of the LEOs for an entire year. Of course, there are officers who go to the range in their down time as hobbyists, but overall it would seem they are woefully undertrained.
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u/Trick-Goat-3643 25d ago
Most dont hold a valid PAL
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u/AJourneyer 25d ago
Many don't, which is why they only do the minimum. It's only the hobbyists that actually hold a PAL/rPAL
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u/TerminalSnood 24d ago
*one session, not season.
I shoot more in one personal range trip than my agency provides in a year.
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u/DieKastKollector 25d ago
It’s not about stopping crime it’s about unarming the people which should scare everyone.
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u/The_King_of_Canada mb 25d ago
No. This is american 2nd ammendment rhetoric. Shits doesnt make sense.
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u/thecoolernameistaken 24d ago
America bad elbows up if you don’t like it go live there 🤓
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u/The_King_of_Canada mb 24d ago
How bout we dont import their shit politics?
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u/Nilotaus 24d ago
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u/The_King_of_Canada mb 24d ago
Yea. Im from Manitoba. I know. Do you see this happening now? Do we have a large disenfranchised population right now? Or is this more liBuRLs BaD rhetoric?
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u/Nilotaus 24d ago
You said that disarming people was "American 2nd amendment rhetoric", when that's exactly what happened here.
And yes, liberals are bad. Talking about having exemptions for First Nations for using firearms affected by all the bans like that wouldn't create resentment and artificially drive a wedge further between them & the rest of the population. The AFN is this close to flipping the Liberal party the bird and withdrawing support over this bullshit.
For a Canadian identity, I'm gonna need more than"I aM nOt AmErIcAN", that's just some really lame shit. And what will happen if "the greatest nation on earth" were to implode one day? What then of this national identity?
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u/The_King_of_Canada mb 24d ago
For a Canadian identity, I'm gonna need more than"I aM nOt AmErIcAN"
We have more. But you pessimists don't care and don't want to see it.
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u/Nilotaus 23d ago
Very good!
Now address the rest of the comment.
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u/The_King_of_Canada mb 23d ago
Dude the rest of your comment is nearly impossible to understand.
They are not disarming us so that they can control us. You are over-exaggerating and frankly giving them too much credit. The real answer is the anti-gunner groups give them money.
You have like 3 unconnected tangents.
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u/Nilotaus 23d ago
Dude the rest of your comment is nearly impossible to understand.
#1: Skill Issue
#2: https://media1.tenor.com/m/U1qy5h1C6-AAAAAd/strudel-hans-landa.gif
I'm thinking it's not so much you can't understand, but more that you don't want to understand. It's all right there, the LPC themselves stated that they will exempt First Nations with the firearms banned via OIC. If you support that kind of reverse-racism that's detrimental to all parties then there's no further discussion with you.
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u/Otherwise_Rub_9515 25d ago
Going after criminals is racist and anti immigration according to Liberals
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u/LuckNo2351 25d ago
i perosnally would like to accept death penalty if i break any of the current gun laws and regulations.
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u/Valiturus 25d ago
The worst part is that those who know how our firearms laws actually work, and how the government and the RCMP have failed to take correct action, are the only ones making these thoroughly valid points.
The people trying to further ratchet firearms laws are wilfully ignorant of the facts and of applying dispassionate logic to the situation.