r/canadaguns Jun 28 '26

Gun and gear reviews S&W 1854 357 jamming

So far I’ve put 250 rounds through her.
This has happened a few times.
Example here in the video.
Today at the range I shot 100 rounds and this happened about 4 times.
Reasons?

Using PMC Bronze .357 Mag 158gr. JSP

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u/SKS1953 Jun 28 '26

You're not fully cycling the action. Simple as that

66

u/Olive-Drab-Green Nyet! Rifle is Fine Jun 28 '26

His nickname is short stroke on the range

13

u/MannerCurrent7912 Jun 28 '26

I like that 🤣

3

u/Bearthegood Jun 28 '26

That's what she said

25

u/BigheadReddit Jun 28 '26

Exactly this.

6

u/MannerCurrent7912 Jun 28 '26

I think so

28

u/spicymeatmemes Jun 28 '26

It started cycling when you started being mean to it.

Don't be gentle, but do two separate moves instead of a quick 1-2. Down hard, verify ejection, up hard.

17

u/MannerCurrent7912 Jun 28 '26

Yeah I don’t think I’m going down hard enough on it.
My first lever.

17

u/AresV92 Jun 28 '26

That's what she said 😏

0

u/Inevitable-Click-129 Jun 28 '26

That’s what she said…

51

u/joeker7669 Jun 28 '26

My Marlin does this when I don’t pretend that I’m a cowboy.

8

u/TitusImmortalis Jun 28 '26

Gotta get that cowboy action!! Yee to the yaw, brother

32

u/Top_Importance6216 Jun 28 '26

the lever equivalent of short stroking a pump shotty.

classic.

10

u/cdn_sentry117 Jun 28 '26

Get good, then get fast. Slow down, and fully cycle the action.

22

u/Fickle_Ice_7584 Jun 28 '26

The 1854s need to be run hard, don't have to be fast but you need to be firm.

13

u/Inevitable-Click-129 Jun 28 '26

Hard and firm got it… wait .. what are we talking about again?

7

u/Fickle_Ice_7584 Jun 28 '26

It's just like making love to your fat wife

13

u/Top_Importance6216 Jun 28 '26

our* fat wife.

0

u/EnglishmanInMH Jun 28 '26

Room for a small one?

8

u/_Connor Jun 28 '26

Reasons?

Operator error.

1

u/MannerCurrent7912 Jun 28 '26

Thanks for the tip.

5

u/CanadaFootyFan Jun 28 '26

Love the jersey. Big game today against South Africa. LFG!

3

u/BowFella Jun 28 '26

Why I use semi auto rifles for my tracking/predator defense. You can run a pump or a lever almost as fast as a semi, but in a panic the chances that you do not operate the action fully and get a jam are significant.

3

u/Exodest Jun 28 '26

Short stroking. That is all.

3

u/Noshtheidiot Jun 28 '26

Buddy ur short stroking the thing crazy. All the way forwards with authority on that action

3

u/Chomps-Lewis Jun 28 '26

You gotta man up when you work those levers, hoss. 250 rounds is barely broken in. work it.

1

u/Berns35703 Jun 29 '26

1200+ through mine and I think she’s still in the breaking in stage. Action feels smoother and lighter bit by bit. I also had red knuckles last time I ran more than 100rnds through her cuz of cycling all the way. But that’s why callouses exist

3

u/Spread-Hour Jun 28 '26

Stroke harder and all the way.

3

u/denach644 Jun 28 '26

I'm barely wise on guns but it's obvious that you're not going far enough on the action when trying to eject.

Lever action is one of the most reliable types out there, especially considering the age of the design. It's like having a pump action shotgun jam, or something. Just... Well, doesn't happen outside of user error.

3

u/brewski_tumble Jun 28 '26

Looks like your arms aren't long enough to properly cycle it while shouldered. May be beneficial to lower it from your shooting position to cycle the next round and then re-shoulder. Repeat. Unless you're doing some sort of speed shooting competition I don't see why this wouldn't be a viable fix for your problem

3

u/justinoff Jun 28 '26

The bolt didnt hit the wall bro

2

u/MauryBallstein26 Jun 28 '26

Don’t push the action down and forward, punch the action straight forward.

2

u/Frosty-Reporter7518 Jun 28 '26

Clean and lubricate

2

u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 Jun 28 '26

Short stroking action, be rough on it, rougher than you are on the wife, clean and lube try different ammo as well

Nothing to worry about

Just break her in like the prom queen

2

u/Silky_Jade269 Jun 28 '26

Short stroking, I’ve got more that 1000 rounds thru mine. Just a skill issue the more you use it the better you’ll get with it just practice fully cycling the action

2

u/TheRip91 Jun 28 '26

Easy to short stroke with the big loop.

3

u/Gunpowder- Jun 29 '26

Too much John wick, not enough John Wayne. You need to cycle the lever all the way forward until you feel a positive stop on the end of the stroke.

1

u/Fresh-Efficiency-352 Jun 28 '26

By the way that thing is ejecting youre barely even kissing the ejector when you cycle the action when you run the action like a man..... send the lever all the way forwards till it bottoms out then pull it back into you if she aint flinging brass youre doing something wrong my friend....

1

u/AcanthisittaNo7338 Jun 29 '26

Thats all you dude. Rifle is fine.

1

u/apocalypticpops Jul 03 '26

Yaaa guy crank on it like it owes you money!

0

u/Potential-Pair4715 Jun 28 '26

Thats add up with a SnW

0

u/Ol_Jucko Jun 28 '26

Tighten up the screw (and throw a bit of blue loctite on it) on the underside just forward of the lever. Same issue I had when I had my Henry Big Boy in .44. Should solve that problem for the most part hopefully for ya!

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '26

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u/LolingBastard Jun 28 '26

He is clearly not cycling it fully.

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u/AresV92 Jun 28 '26

Wouldn't it be the lifter/elevator/feed ramp that guides the round from the tube magazine up into the chamber? Doesn't the extractor pull the empty casing backwards? Or does it do both here like in a Mauser 1898 action? I suspect those saying op needs to use more force on the lever are correct because it is an intermittent problem when he appears to be short stroking the lever. Just like an undergassed semi, a lever needs a certain amount of force to function reliably.