r/canadaguns 28d ago

Gun and gear reviews S&W 1854 357 jamming

So far I’ve put 250 rounds through her.
This has happened a few times.
Example here in the video.
Today at the range I shot 100 rounds and this happened about 4 times.
Reasons?

Using PMC Bronze .357 Mag 158gr. JSP

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u/SKS1953 28d ago

You're not fully cycling the action. Simple as that

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u/Olive-Drab-Green Nyet! Rifle is Fine 28d ago

His nickname is short stroke on the range

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u/MannerCurrent7912 27d ago

I like that 🤣

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u/Bearthegood 27d ago

That's what she said

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u/BigheadReddit 28d ago

Exactly this.

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u/MannerCurrent7912 28d ago

I think so

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u/spicymeatmemes 28d ago

It started cycling when you started being mean to it.

Don't be gentle, but do two separate moves instead of a quick 1-2. Down hard, verify ejection, up hard.

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u/MannerCurrent7912 28d ago

Yeah I don’t think I’m going down hard enough on it.
My first lever.

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u/AresV92 28d ago

That's what she said 😏

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u/Inevitable-Click-129 28d ago

That’s what she said…

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u/joeker7669 28d ago

My Marlin does this when I don’t pretend that I’m a cowboy.

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u/TitusImmortalis 27d ago

Gotta get that cowboy action!! Yee to the yaw, brother

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u/Top_Importance6216 28d ago

the lever equivalent of short stroking a pump shotty.

classic.

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u/cdn_sentry117 27d ago

Get good, then get fast. Slow down, and fully cycle the action.

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u/Fickle_Ice_7584 28d ago

The 1854s need to be run hard, don't have to be fast but you need to be firm.

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u/Inevitable-Click-129 28d ago

Hard and firm got it… wait .. what are we talking about again?

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u/Fickle_Ice_7584 28d ago

It's just like making love to your fat wife

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u/Top_Importance6216 28d ago

our* fat wife.

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u/EnglishmanInMH 28d ago

Room for a small one?

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u/_Connor 27d ago

Reasons?

Operator error.

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u/MannerCurrent7912 27d ago

Thanks for the tip.

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u/CanadaFootyFan 27d ago

Love the jersey. Big game today against South Africa. LFG!

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u/MannerCurrent7912 27d ago

LETS GOOOOOO

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u/BowFella 28d ago

Why I use semi auto rifles for my tracking/predator defense. You can run a pump or a lever almost as fast as a semi, but in a panic the chances that you do not operate the action fully and get a jam are significant.

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u/Exodest 28d ago

Short stroking. That is all.

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u/Noshtheidiot 28d ago

Buddy ur short stroking the thing crazy. All the way forwards with authority on that action

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u/Chomps-Lewis 27d ago

You gotta man up when you work those levers, hoss. 250 rounds is barely broken in. work it.

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u/Berns35703 26d ago

1200+ through mine and I think she’s still in the breaking in stage. Action feels smoother and lighter bit by bit. I also had red knuckles last time I ran more than 100rnds through her cuz of cycling all the way. But that’s why callouses exist

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u/Spread-Hour 27d ago

Stroke harder and all the way.

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u/denach644 27d ago

I'm barely wise on guns but it's obvious that you're not going far enough on the action when trying to eject.

Lever action is one of the most reliable types out there, especially considering the age of the design. It's like having a pump action shotgun jam, or something. Just... Well, doesn't happen outside of user error.

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u/brewski_tumble 27d ago

Looks like your arms aren't long enough to properly cycle it while shouldered. May be beneficial to lower it from your shooting position to cycle the next round and then re-shoulder. Repeat. Unless you're doing some sort of speed shooting competition I don't see why this wouldn't be a viable fix for your problem

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u/justinoff 27d ago

The bolt didnt hit the wall bro

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u/MauryBallstein26 28d ago

Don’t push the action down and forward, punch the action straight forward.

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u/Frosty-Reporter7518 27d ago

Clean and lubricate

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u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 27d ago

Short stroking action, be rough on it, rougher than you are on the wife, clean and lube try different ammo as well

Nothing to worry about

Just break her in like the prom queen

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u/Silky_Jade269 27d ago

Short stroking, I’ve got more that 1000 rounds thru mine. Just a skill issue the more you use it the better you’ll get with it just practice fully cycling the action

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u/TheRip91 27d ago

Easy to short stroke with the big loop.

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u/Gunpowder- 26d ago

Too much John wick, not enough John Wayne. You need to cycle the lever all the way forward until you feel a positive stop on the end of the stroke.

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u/Fresh-Efficiency-352 27d ago

By the way that thing is ejecting youre barely even kissing the ejector when you cycle the action when you run the action like a man..... send the lever all the way forwards till it bottoms out then pull it back into you if she aint flinging brass youre doing something wrong my friend....

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u/AcanthisittaNo7338 26d ago

Thats all you dude. Rifle is fine.

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u/iNeedAdivorce 26d ago

Short stroking bro

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u/apocalypticpops 23d ago

Yaaa guy crank on it like it owes you money!

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u/Potential-Pair4715 27d ago

Thats add up with a SnW

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u/Ol_Jucko 27d ago

Tighten up the screw (and throw a bit of blue loctite on it) on the underside just forward of the lever. Same issue I had when I had my Henry Big Boy in .44. Should solve that problem for the most part hopefully for ya!

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/LolingBastard 28d ago

He is clearly not cycling it fully.

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u/AresV92 28d ago

Wouldn't it be the lifter/elevator/feed ramp that guides the round from the tube magazine up into the chamber? Doesn't the extractor pull the empty casing backwards? Or does it do both here like in a Mauser 1898 action? I suspect those saying op needs to use more force on the lever are correct because it is an intermittent problem when he appears to be short stroking the lever. Just like an undergassed semi, a lever needs a certain amount of force to function reliably.