"Get it before it's banned!"

[u/Trilobyte83]

Ever since the bans started coming down 6 years ago, people were saying "buy so and before it's banned", as they (correctly) speculated that May 2020 was just the first step of many, and progressively the most scary unbanned gun would get added to the list until none are left.

What's the point though?

I don't understand the idea of buying a gun while you still can (currently the SKS), just to get ahead of the ban, use it for a while, then be stuck with it. Seems like you're paying an inflated price, to enjoy it for maybe a year, but then be stuck with it.

Although I don't have any, my friends have some of the banned rifles and they've just become white elephants. Can't do anything with them, tying up capital, can't sell, can't use, but, still have to store and have all the legal downside in case anything goes wrong.

So what's the logic of trying to buy something ahead of it being banned? Either it gets banned and you can never use it, or it doesn't and there's no issue picking it up in the future.

[u/Relevant_Diver_3228]

It's better to have it and be able to use it if you need to then to not have it and need to use it

[u/LeVieuxLoup → u/Relevant_Diver_3228]

But you can't use it if it's banned. So what's the point?

[u/HankHippoppopalous → u/LeVieuxLoup]

Its not banned if the government collapses.

[u/HungryFollowing8909 → u/HankHippoppopalous]

That's my single wish every day.

[u/dsac → u/HungryFollowing8909]

The government collapsing would result in tens, if not hundreds of thousands of deaths. Why would you wish for that?

[u/DumbFuckingUsername → u/dsac]

Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down and beat you with experience.

Also, a wise man never wishes for violence or to use weapons, but uses them as a last resort, with reluctance. Don't wish for the day, but don't be caught unprepared.

[u/HungryFollowing8909 → u/DumbFuckingUsername]

Good thing I don't advocate for violence, only for the dismantling of bloated government systems and freedom of the people.

[u/DumbFuckingUsername → u/HungryFollowing8909]

I think a collapsed government will result in a lot of violence, but who knows. History probably shows that's what happens though.

I had this typed up and then was going to delete it, but maybe someone will read it and change their mind or agree:

I'm all for freedom of the people, and for a less bloated government. Although I don't think a thinner govt alone will solve things. I'm my opinion, the current issue is deeper than that and stems from our capitalist roots. Money is too great of a driving factor, and greed is too strong of a human desire. As long as the people in power stand to benefit from choosing things that are better for companies, rich oligarchs and foreign interests rather then choosing decisions that are good for the people, we will never see the true improvements that we both know the people deserve.

The only way to solve the problem is to get a new government in power that doesn't support the rich business interests and instead supports the people. The only way to do that is to completely change our (essentially) two party system so that new blood can come in and change the game.

[u/canadianmohawk1 → u/DumbFuckingUsername]

So basically, collapse is your only hope because what you wrote is extremely unlikely to happen given that we've moved to a two party system from having more previously. Ie: it's getting worse, not better. History probably shows what will happen though.........and perhaps your wish isn't so different than theirs after all.

[u/DumbFuckingUsername → u/canadianmohawk1]

No I'm fully aware of how unlikely it is. Trudeau's promise of electrical reform got shot down by him or his party by confusing the public or whatever their excuse was.

Proportional representation is the only way.

If collapse is the next best alternative, then so be it. We can all band together for an "I told you so" and reap the benefits of being prepared regardless.

Honestly, is rather the bandaid is ripped off rather than slowly peeled back like it is being currently, it feels like death by 1000 cuts to try and bleed the people dry. Just let it collapse and face the music. Not my wish, but an unfortunate reality in the late capitalist nightmare the world has fallen into.

Or we vote in a sensible politician to do what's actually good for the Canadian people...extremely unlikely...what party would they even run under?

[u/canadianmohawk1 → u/DumbFuckingUsername]

"Or we vote in a sensible politician"

You and I both know it will never happen.

" Trudeau's promise of electrical reform got shot down by him or his party"

Exactly. That's as close it'll ever come which is not close enough. In fact, we are now worse off than we were before him, imo.

"Just let it collapse and face the music. Not my wish"

Glad we all agree here. :)

[u/HankHippoppopalous → u/dsac]

Wait. I’m curious as to how you think that would happen.

[u/HungryFollowing8909 → u/dsac]

A society where possibly hundreds of thousands of lives hang onto the government doesn't sound like a healthy society

[u/4r4nd0mninj4 → u/dsac]

We have more than one party in Canada to step in and fix things when the current one fails. 🤷‍♂️

[u/canadianmohawk1 → u/4r4nd0mninj4]

Lol ... You're new here I see. The current one has been failing for going on 12 years now.

[u/dsac → u/HankHippoppopalous]

US Republic will dissolve before Canada's government does, and that's gonna completely change the discussion around guns in this country

[u/Hrafn-Freyrson → u/dsac]

I’ve got a bridge to sell you if you think that’s true

[u/dsac → u/Hrafn-Freyrson]

Typical conservative, selling off public infrastructure

[u/HankHippoppopalous → u/dsac]

*runs to PolyMarket* I've got 100 bucks that says otherwise.