r/canadaguns Jun 26 '26

Misc Bear Creek Arsenal BC-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv7GCz56NAg

I was wandering around youtube when I came across a SmallArmsSolutions review for this particular platform. Somewhat interestingly, it seems mostly C-21 compliant? It has a proprietary 5 round magazine and seems to be extended to work with their proprietary BC-8 uppers, so it's not AR-10 compatible. Thoughts on whether or not this would actually be legal to import into Canada? I suspect it might be caught on being an "AR Variant" but it'd be interesting to hear all of your thoughts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '26

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

I'm definitely well aware, lol. My american buddies have told me as much when I mentioned this to them. But considering how reduced our options are, it's worth looking at what else we might have access to that isn't just the top or even middle shelf stuff.

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u/yummybunnybear Jun 26 '26

It's a proprietary rifle made before Bill C21 explicitly for hunting so there's a good chance the RCMP lab would initially approve it. But the question is whether it would get caught up in a futuee OIC

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u/LordRevan1996 Jun 26 '26

I just assume everything will at some point under the current liberals. They sure like to go “look how many X assault weapons we banned”.

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u/yummybunnybear Jun 27 '26

First they banned actual assault rifles. Then they went after assault "style" rifles. Then the RCMP lab prohibited "variants" of assault "style" rifles. Now the antigunners are calling the SKS a "loophole". Eventually they'll call every gun a loophole of a variant of a style of an assault rifle.

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u/Equal-Ad-3757 Jun 27 '26

they also tried to ban assault looking airosft and paintballs guns during the C21 legislation, which they called it "gate way" guns.

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u/yummybunnybear Jun 27 '26

Better ban bananas for being a variant of a gateway gun

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u/Lopsided_Ad3516 Jun 27 '26

Put those fingers down or you'll lose them too.

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u/LordRevan1996 Jun 27 '26

Gateway guns really? Aren’t these the same types of assholes that cry that weed shouldn’t be considered a gateway drug?

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u/MasterScore8739 Jun 28 '26

It’s only a matter of time before our favourite sticks catch the ban hammer. 😔

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

I think we can expect all semi-autos, and even some particularly "fast" bolt actions to get banned at some point. But the main question is "what is available to us now" that I'm curious about.

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u/LordRevan1996 Jun 27 '26

I wouldn’t be surprised but I think they’d try to go for forcing storage at gun clubs or some dumb shit first.

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u/MasterScore8739 Jun 28 '26

I’ve said it multiple times before and I’ll say it again.
It doesn’t matter how fast you can shoot a bolt action. Once all the semi-autos are moved into the Prohib category, bolt actions are next.

Instead of them being hunting rifles they’ll turn into “high powered sniper rifles” and the argument of “nobody needs a sniper rifle, they serve no purpose other than on the battlefield” will become the new red herring.

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u/Vahuo89 Jun 26 '26

Only a matter of time 

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u/bumsaxk Jun 27 '26

If you frequent the AR-15 sub you will know the Americans think BCA is shit. Think BCL levels of shit.

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u/MasterScore8739 Jun 28 '26

Same here. At least with a shitty AR you can change out the components and actually have some aftermarket options.

Realistically nobody makes a truly terrible receiver set. It’s usually the internals that cause most the problems.

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

I quickly noticed from my friends and reviews of the company as a whole. But I'm more considering it in comparison to the turkish stuff currently for sale, rather than what folks over in the US have access to.

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube Jun 26 '26

If any magazine over 5 rounds exists that it can take, and it was designed after C-21, its prohibited. If it was before, then that doesn't matter.

Unfortunately, for FRT purposes, the marketing ties itself to ARs

Running some of the biggest calibers, the Huntmaster redefines hunting with an AR.

So while it could maybe get a NR FRT. Things like that mean it almost certainly does not.

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

Yeah, I was noticing they really stress how similar it is to an AR even though the recievers seem distinct and incompatible with existing AR-10s. That was the one thing that I was wondering if it would kill it if anyone tried to import it.

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u/strickenchips Jun 27 '26

I've heard BCA is trash. Also, they made an AR10 in .30-30, like what in the Kentucky Fried Fuck?!

Then again, I need a DBM semiauto .300 WM rifle that takes AR furniture.

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u/Goliad1990 Jun 27 '26

Also, they made an AR10 in .30-30

Hello, Based department?

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u/strickenchips Jun 27 '26

By based do you mean "It's like .308, but worse in EVERY way, especially in an AR10"?

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

It's questionably useful, highly impractical, but it does seem like it at least fits the legal definitions of what is importable.

Even if it being "tactical" and "AR inspired" is a death knell by direct naming.

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u/Red_Shrinp556 Jun 27 '26

I’m an American and BCA is absolutely garbage, stay away at all costs.

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u/Goliad1990 Jun 27 '26

We won't have the choice. Even if this does technically meet the criteria to avoid being caught by the "assault weapon" ban, it would be instantly proscribed by name regardless because of it's appearance.

The only semi-autos we can get now are overtly fuddy ones.

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u/Red_Shrinp556 Jun 28 '26

I get that, but I’d honestly be surprised if this didn’t break before it gets banned.

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

As the other commentor pointed out, we don't really have much choice. While I'm not confident in whether or not it can actually be brought up here, I'm also happy to find something even somewhat modern that seems like it would be legal.

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u/brokenringlands Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

I am absolutely for the idea of bringing these here!

Edit to add: Even has Hunt on the name! For hunting!

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

Given the Carmel and Makasi managed to make it in, it's definitely worth looking a bit broader beyond the big name manufacturers; even if they aren't as reputable as them. Any port in a storm, I suppose.

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u/allsteaksnamed Jun 26 '26

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u/number75 Jun 27 '26

Avoiding that outcome is definitely my aim here!