r/canadaguns Jun 23 '26

Fix my gun Canuck Elite TacOp - First 50 Shells

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Hello! First post. I have a turkunelli clone. After first 50 shells (score 00 buck) I had 5 malfunctions. All of them failures to feed. The shells were damaged trying to be fed. See picture for example.

Thoughts? Is this something that may resolve itself as I continue to break the gun in?

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u/starw24-ps4 Jun 23 '26

Make sure she’s good and lubed up, and there’s no burrs where the shells are getting poked there. Break in is part of the process with the Turks, they need heavy brass until they smooth out. Good luck

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u/No_Win_9797 Jun 23 '26

This^
Plus, breaking in any semi auto shotgun is best done with 50-100 high velocity SLUGS
your failure to feed is likely due to ammo selection.
I picked up an operator elite and ran a few boxes of HV slugs through it, and now it cycles light weight birdshot no problem
That shell damage definitely looks like you need to take a dremel to some high/rough points in your action to smooth it out.
Disassemble the entire thing before doing this to prevent metal shavings/flakes/dust jamming up any other part of your new toy
Good luck!

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u/LeeFrann Jun 23 '26

Until they smooth out then wear out then break

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u/TheSkrillanator Jun 23 '26

I learned recently that Canuck does Design, Model Testing, Warranty and QC in Canada. Theyre only manufactured in Turkey. Out of all the Turkish brands theyre actually the one that gives its buyers the most peace of mind.

You could probably reach out to their CS for some insight and answers.

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u/illknowitwhenireddit Jun 23 '26

Girsan is also a Turkish manufacturer that produces some really.gkkd quality firearms. They're more known for their pistols but they make a nice interia shotgun as well in the MC312

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u/dke783 Jun 23 '26

Recommendation:

-do a fingertip-test to feel any scratchy spots​ on the feed ramp or in the chamber

-polish those spots to be mirror-smooth with a Dremel tool or by hand.

-You can use any one or any combination of : metal polish cream, steel wool, kitchen brillo pad, or lapping paper.

Here's a pistol example of DIY polishing:

https://youtu.be/YB3z2Snv7QA?si=lyrITt9i0Rpfs-U5

Here's is a shotgun chamber example:

https://youtu.be/3thPKR4FqZQ?si=vK9HyLzam-W53WPN

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u/ElectronicPrize9514 Jun 23 '26

Very helpful videos. I did find a spot while cleaning it.

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u/Cute_Ad6301 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

It's not the shotgun. It's the shell. Notice the divot is at the point of the crimp??

Challenger 00 buck have this problem. The crimp isn't fully rounded (basically a hexagon) and the corner catches on the feed ramp, stops and gets destroyed by the bolt. Most slug rounds don't have this issue since the edge is rolled in and not folded over.

Work in your Canuck with a box or two of magnum slugs. Avoid cheap shells with that terrible faceted crimp.

Once I realized using this cheap ammo caused this issue, my Panzer M4 Speed Pro runs as smooth as butter. ZERO F2F, extracting, or stove-piping.

Edit: OP needs to see if it's a burr as BowFella mentioned below.

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u/dke783 Jun 23 '26

My own Turkish M4 clone had a small burr on the feed ramp that hung up three rounds during the first 80 I shot through the gun.

I applied ​60 seconds of sandpaper by hand, followed by ​3 minutes of Dremel polishing with the soft wool attachment and some Autosol metal polish cream.

It runs smoothly and reliably now, no failures to feed.

Maybe your shottie will benefit from similar polishing. ​

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u/ElectronicPrize9514 Jun 23 '26

As I was cleaning it tonight I found a similar sharp burr near the exact same spot. I found it by slicing my finger lol.

Ill try something similar. Im a little nervous about altering the firearm. Im new to owning guns. Worried ill over do it and cause an unfixiable mistake.

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u/dke783 Jun 23 '26

I was scared too when I was first told to "do my own lapping and smoothing."

Now that I've polished the feed ramps on four shotguns, three rifles, and a pistol, I feel good about this polishing being good for the gun.

-the goal is not to remove any crucial metal nor change the barrel geometry. Instead, you are revealing the correct​ geometry by removing imperfections that were missed at the factory. ​

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u/BowFella Jun 23 '26

Nope it's the shotgun. Clearly a burr on the feeding ramp that needs filing down. Shot several hundreds of rounds of challengers and score ammo and never once had this issue. Infact I shot a box of these exact same score 00buck yesterday out of my mossberg 930. No issues.

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u/RXARMS http://www.rxarms.com/ Jun 24 '26

I have fed all kind of junk to my Benelli M4s and never ever had anything like this. I've used score slugs, score buck, challenger target load, challenger slugs, never once had ripped up shell like this.

So I'm not so convinced it is the shell crimp

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u/Vegetable-Army-4872 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

My 1301 eats score and challenger all day.  Never had a failure. 

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u/LeeFrann Jun 23 '26

Shut up with your good shotgun and competent purchase you're not wanted here

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u/Vegetable-Army-4872 Jun 23 '26

Friends don’t let friends buy Turkish. 

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u/EnvironmentBright697 Jun 23 '26

That’s what you get with the higher end shotties. Better QC and machining so you don’t have to do it yourself. If you’re gonna buy a turknelli some polishing is required.

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u/LeeFrann Jun 24 '26

Don't forget metallurgy 

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u/ElectronicPrize9514 Jun 24 '26

Unless a Dremel and some polishing compound is going to cost me $1300. Im okay with that trade off lol

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u/Vegetable-Army-4872 Jun 24 '26

I think $1300 is a very good deal for the peace of mind knowing that your shotgun will always work when you need it to. 

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u/the_dau604 Jun 24 '26

From my experience is a combination of both. I have challenger shells like that and they don't run right in any of my shotguns simply because the shells aren't crimped right. But at the same time I had to polish out my turknelli feed ramp too

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u/TheOriginalFarmboy Jun 23 '26

Not even just Turkish guns, last 870 I bought had a fat lip on the top of the chamber that shells would get hung up on, and wouldn't feed at all until I filed it down.

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u/Office_Responsible Jun 23 '26

870 quality is terrible now. My 870P sucks. It was purchased in 2023. I’m going to sell it for mossberg 590A1

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u/TheOriginalFarmboy Jun 23 '26

I was not impressed to say the least. FTF aside the whole gun felt loose and sloppy. I can't speak for their rifles, but I won't be buying one to find out.

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u/Office_Responsible Jun 23 '26

I had to use 0000 steel wool just to get my 870 to extract. I broke the extractor in the first 200 rounds too

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u/Kid-On-Reddit- Jun 24 '26

The problem was you bought a modern 870

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u/TheOriginalFarmboy Jun 24 '26

Thats the thing, it shouldn't be a problem

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u/BowFella Jun 23 '26

On the bright side some burr polishing is one of the least serious quality control defects you can get out of a turkish semi

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u/DougMacRay617 Jun 24 '26

Turkshit gunna turkshit

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u/ElectronicPrize9514 Jun 24 '26

First off, this type of post isn't helpful at all or relevant to my OP.

Im not denying that actual benellis have a higher QOL and QOP. However no way is it x2.

For that reason, the turkinellis are by far a better dollar value. If you want to drop money on branding, go ahead. Just dont be an elitist about it.

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u/DougMacRay617 Jun 24 '26

Im not even saying you need a benelli. Mossbergs are a thing, if your gonna buy a turkshit dont get triggered when people call it a turkshit

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u/ElectronicPrize9514 Jun 24 '26

Its a good shotgun. You can browse the official benelli (or mossberg) forums and trust me they also also have issues.

My point is. My thread wasn't asking "should I buy a m4 clone or something else". It was asking about information about a particular issue i encountered today.

You added nothing of value to that. Took it as an opportunity to spout low IQ brand slop instead of actually trying to help.

It says alot about you.

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u/DougMacRay617 Jun 24 '26

Your triggered about a comment on reddit. Says a lot about you...

Dont post shit, if you dont want people to call it shit.

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u/ElectronicPrize9514 Jun 24 '26

I get "triggered" by people being unnecessarily narcissistic. Seek professional help.

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u/DougMacRay617 Jun 24 '26

Stay off the internet kiddo

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u/Salty-Western-2115 Jun 24 '26

Stop.buying.turkish.crap.

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u/Ausco_1995 Jun 23 '26

Coming from an American perspective Canadian guns are absolute junk nowadays. I've seen so many different guns come out of Canada that barely work, or simply don't work at all. This alone would make me move to the US.

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u/Zerfall2142 Jun 23 '26

These aren't Canadian guns. They are turkish knockoffs using canadian sounding brand names.

You guys get them as sds or charles daily branded guns.

Also the shells in the picture also look like they are hand crimped, further aggravating loading issues with poor quality gun manufacturing. (whether they are or machine crimp doesn't really matter)

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u/dsac Jun 23 '26

There's such a massively high bar that would need to be cleared for me to even consider moving to the US

I'm talking 7-figure salary with a crap load of stock and Health Care Plan XL Pro+ Turbo Extreme Premium and ironclad 8-figure separation payout.

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u/Necessary_Island_425 Jun 23 '26

Get em nice and greasy