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[u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

Looks like a neo nazi attempting a mass shooting. Near Jewish sites (kosher store). Shooter had long hair and a vest on. 

[u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 → u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES]

Looks like a neo nazi attempting a mass shooting

He was a tankie/neo-Stalinist of some sort. From what I've read in his manifesto, he was super anti-capitalist (fair enough), despised Russian oligarchs (justifiable), and admired the USSR as a healthy and most importantly, monogamous country (which is... interesting).

These are all things I would expect from a tankie. It's ticking all the boxes.

But then things get weird.

He starts going on about hypergamy (gold digging), pimps, and other ideas that he has woven into his ideology. Honestly, it's so scatterbrained.

[u/gamercast1337 → u/Beneficial-Ride-4475]

Hate to say it but its a fair response to idolize that shit when you see what capitalism has given us now (hint a broken society, no one able to afford anything, essentially in the end game of pillaging and scamming what you can before it collapses) and you try to tell me someone whos mentally unwell because they could never make it in life due to all of these things going agaisnt them wouldnt think this way? Im not saying everyone who thinks like this is going to go out and shoot at cops or people like this, I find it absolutely horrendous that it got to this point BUT this is what happens when someone who was once reasonable has nothing left. 

I guarantee you if this guy had a house, a loving partner, kids, a job he liked (didnt even need to be high paying) and just felt successful in life he would never even have a thought like this cross his mind. But as more and more people are unable to achieve any of these things in life, this is going to happen more and more. More violence, more lashing out. 

Society is unwell, people cannot handle this, they cant even try to ignore societies problems by having a job that can pay the bills and let them at least live somewhat, with cost of living becoming completely impossible. So the one last way to feel like you achieved sometbing is gone.

This is not a gun issue, this has never BEEN a gun issue. This is a (purposeful) collapse of society by pushing people to the brink. 

And this will keep happening until the actual changes needed are done. But no one wants to face that as we would need to undo or change a massive part of the last 100+ years of society. Boomers especially would feel attacked (as they should they let this happen the most). Myself and so many others warned in particular about how the way we responded to covid would lead to an explosion within the next 5ish years in despair, anxiety, suicide, and these large lashing out at society we see here. All to give the older generations a few more minutes in the sun at the sacrifice of thr younger. But we were ignored.

Sorry for the schizo rant but just be safe out there. There will be more of these attacks to follow. Learn to fight , how to defend yourself, and get skills to survive on your own if needed. Better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in a war.

[u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 → u/gamercast1337]

Hate to say it but its a fair response to idolize that shit when you see what capitalism has given us now (hint a broken society, no one able to afford anything, essentially in the end game of pillaging and scamming what you can before it collapses)

I guarantee you if this guy had a house, a loving partner, kids, a job he liked (didnt even need to be high paying) and just felt successful in life he would never even have a thought like this cross his mind.

I mean yeah, but let's be clear here, capitalism is the system we got. Yes, I agree with your statement about how capitalism pillages once reasonable economies, how it bastardizes the things we hold dearly for profit, and how is scamms and cons us into believing everything is fine. But it is the economic we have.

Despite what you or I believe most people (including the majority on this sub) still like, or even outright love capitalism, to some degree or another. Any plan to change this is going to have to work within those bounds. It sucks, but acknowledging it is going to have to be a first step forward and anyone challenging the status quo. Really to achieve what you are suggesting, we would need a throughly "radicalized" social democratic party (I don't think the NDP is that), with likes of FDR, Truman, Tommy Douglas, Olaf Palme, and Clement Attlee at the helm. Furthermore, we would need a Bretton Woods 2.0, the system which built the post war era.

That's a tall order.

and you try to tell me someone whos mentally unwell because they could never make it in life due to all of these things going agaisnt them wouldnt think this way? Im not saying everyone who thinks like this is going to go out and shoot at cops or people like this, I find it absolutely horrendous that it got to this point BUT this is what happens when someone who was once reasonable has nothing left. 

But as more and more people are unable to achieve any of these things in life, this is going to happen more and more. More violence, more lashing out.  Society is unwell, people cannot handle this, they cant even try to ignore societies problems by having a job that can pay the bills and let them at least live somewhat, with cost of living becoming completely impossible. So the one last way to feel like you achieved sometbing is gone. This is not a gun issue, this has never BEEN a gun issue. This is a (purposeful) collapse of society by pushing people to the brink.  And this will keep happening until the actual changes needed are done. But no one wants to face that as we would need to undo or change a massive part of the last 100+ years of society. Boomers especially would feel attacked (as they should they let this happen the most). Myself and so many others warned in particular about how the way we responded to covid would lead to an explosion within the next 5ish years in despair, anxiety, suicide, and these large lashing out at society we see here. All to give the older generations a few more minutes in the sun at the sacrifice of thr younger. But we were ignored.

And that's the real kicker isn't it? The people in power don't care (because they benefit), and the average, regular person, would rather consume and consume some more, then cover their eyes and pretend there isn't a problem until it effects them personally. I do have to give credit to corporate and marketing, they've brainwashed us good.