r/canadaguns Jun 08 '26

Recurring Canadaguns Politics and Debate Thread

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u/SlowDebate3165 Jun 16 '26

CZ RANT

I’m going to be blunt: if you rage at individuals for turning guns in under the confiscation program, but you’re still willing to buy new CZ/Colt Canada products because they make cool guns, you’re scum and you’re a hypocrite.

Colt Canada, aka CZ, was tied to this mess to some extent. Exactly how much, and whether they still are, has been kept nice and muddy for the rest of us. But it was confirmed they were involved with the LPC enough that this became an issue in the first place, and that should be enough for anyone who claims to have principles.

So for gods sake spare people the lecture about some scumbag taking compensation, while you’re still financially supporting a company connected to the same system because you want a new toy. Is he right for turning his gun in like a rat? No, but buying CZ is JUST AS BAD.

The common CZ apologist copes are literally identical to the confiscation compliance copes.

Proof:

  1. “We’re already so limited, why limit ourselves more?”

Congratulations, you have a double-digit IQ. That is literally the point. A boycott is supposed to be inconvenient. That is what makes it a sacrifice.
Exhibit A: “The guns are already banned, so why not take the money?”

2.“CZ makes good products though.”

Yes. Correct. That is why having principles COSTS something.
Exhibit B: “I paid good money for these guns though.”

3.“Me not buying one won’t change anything.”

Funny how that excuse is cowardice when someone else says it, but suddenly practical realism when it protects your next purchase.
Exhibit C: “Me turning mine in won’t change anything.”

4.“I don’t want to punish myself over politics.”

That’s cool, but then stop pretending you’re taking some hardline stand by rejecting confiscation. You’re just folding at a different price point.
Exhibit D: “I don’t want to lose money by refusing to turn my restricted firearms in over politics.”

5.“There aren’t many good options left in Canada.”

Again, that is the point. The whole situation sucks. Principles matter MORE when the easy options are gone, not less. Read that out again if it didn't sink in.
Exhibit E: “There aren’t many legal options left for these banned guns.”

Honestly, hot take: it's not eventhe same, supporting CZ is worse. Why? Because refusing compensation meant eating a real loss on property you already own and may never legally use again. That's hard. But boycotting CZ just means not buying something.... that's...easy. You're telling me you can do one but not the other? Get fucked.

And if your response to this is to write any defence about why it’s actually fine to buy new CZ products, I want you to understand something: your attitude, not just the LPC’s attitude, and not just their boomer/urbanite voter base, is exactly why we are in this situation.

When people say Canada is a cucked country, they are talking about people like you. You fold under zero pressure.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jun 16 '26

Out of curiosity though what’s the end goal for CZ boycott?

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u/SlowDebate3165 Jun 17 '26

The goal? The point?

To not lick the boot on your own neck. To not financially support a company tied to the same confiscation system you claim to oppose.

The goal is the act.

Exhibit F: “What’s the goal of not participating in the buyback?” Same cope.

Refusing payment from the LPC was/is never going to reverse the OICs, stop future bans, or stop the confiscation. I hope you werent thinking that was the case lol. The delay was a best case scenario caused mainly by the court challenge. Why would the LPC care about making anyone with prohibs a paper criminal? It costs them nothing.

The original point of refusing to participate in the buyback was to not take part in your own humiliation. Same with boycotting CZ.

People who buy CZ on some level understand that principle. They just don’t like it when the sacrifice is not buying something they want. Because they're pathetic.

Sometimes the goal is simply not being part of the problem.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jun 17 '26

Not really. Their is a goal with not participating in the buyback. It’s to not legitimatize the buyback. That’s a tangible goal.

Yes you are right. The odds of the LPC backing down were low if not non existent. Also yea they are comfortable with making people paper criminals. However not partaking in the buyback does have the goal of not legitimatizing the buyback.

Okay but that’s not a tangible goal exactly.

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u/SlowDebate3165 Jun 17 '26

If you buy CZ products while criticizing people for participating in the buyback, you’re a hypocrite.

The end.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jun 17 '26

Again. There is a tangible goal with not participating in the buyback which I explained above. You have yet to explain what the tangible goal is for not buying CZ products.

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u/SlowDebate3165 Jun 17 '26

I hope the 457/600/trail was worth it bud.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jun 17 '26

I bought used lol. Still waiting on what that tangible goal is for not buying CZ products is. Like at this point I would accept for spite as a answer as I do plenty of things out of spite myself.

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u/SlowDebate3165 Jun 17 '26

I feel like you think you're steel-manning the argument but you're just being obtuse. I've already directly answered this. You just refuse to accept what I said as a valid answer.