r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Jun 08 '26

Recurring Canadaguns Politics and Debate Thread

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u/SlowDebate3165 Jun 09 '26

I know this isn’t a new point, and most people here probably already understand it, but based on some of the debates I keep seeing in posts, it needs to be said again for those who havent heard this point 1million times:

Canadian gun owners need to stop pretending there is some magical middle ground where firearms are protected, but nobody has to support actual "american style" gun rights. That doesn’t exist. If firearms are not protected as a right, they exist entirely at the discretion of the government. That means every election, every panic, every bad-faith law, and every uninformed chode/cunt in a suit can chip away at them. (And they don't come back once chipped if you've noticed).

The PAL is a perfect example that might shock some "moderates" here. On paper, licensing sounds reasonable. I also don't want my retard neighbours to own guns. But in practice, the system around it has been used again and again to justify more restrictions, more classifications, more bans, and more hoops. People warned about that exact thing when it was introduced and yet were laughed off as paranoid. "Told you so" is an understatment.

So at some point people need to be honest about what they want. Either you want firearm ownership protected as an actual right, or you accept that it will keep being slowly regulated out of existence. Being afraid of “American-style” gun rights while complaining about Canadian-style gun laws is not a serious position to take. You can moan about it all you like, but that's the reality you live in.

I unironically respect people who want all guns banned MORE than those who still think they can ever satisfy the government.

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Jun 09 '26

The argument should not be for firearms specifically but for private property, specifically personal property rights. Just as they take firearms they can take anything else. Everything we own is not ours, and thats the biggest issue. We own it as the crown allows it but it can take anytime it wants. The crown here being figuratively, as the government acts on it.