r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Jun 08 '26

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Jun 08 '26

In a more positive light I’m grateful the firearms community remains alive and well. Amazing to see the fight against these bans continue and we haven’t succumbed to becoming jaded

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jun 08 '26

I am to spiteful you give up.

https://giphy.com/gifs/eWTGuFKzYNyc2pr6kw

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Jun 08 '26

Yeah fr. I’ll shoot (lawfully and in approved ranges or on crown land) till I’m dead

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u/dgod40 Jun 08 '26

The big question is, are people willing to do things unlawfully if the government bans everything. When alcohol and drug prohibitions were in effect, people did the unlawful activity and dealt with the repercussions. It was done so much that eventually the government had to change the laws. ACTUAL mass non compliance is the only way forward.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jun 09 '26

See this is one of the reasons I don't think the government would ban everything. Atleast not for a long time and not all at once. The government is still always trying to act like they respect "Hunters and farmers." So it's pretty hard to keep up that facade when you have banned literally every single gun. So while I do think they will keep moving the goal posts until maybe where down to air rifles, muzzle loaders and single shot breach loading firearms a complete outright ban is going to be a hard pill to swallow as well as comically difficult to enforce. Let's say we go with the CCFR stats for a second and say 2 million guns were impacted by these gun bans. Let's also go with the estimate that there are 20 million firearms in Canada (some say it could be more some say less but let's go with 2 million for the sake of this argument.) the government is struggling with getting people to give up 10% of total firearms in circulation in Canada. If it has taken them over 6 years to deal with this what hope do they have for trying to deal with the other 90%? Also on top of that the government banning all guns would most certainly end up in Charter challenges on various grounds. The courts might shut every single one down but that would still tie up government resources in court. Oh and let's not forget the government likes to use guns as a wedge issue. Ban guns and there goes your wedge issue.

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u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 Jun 10 '26

See this is one of the reasons I don't think the government would ban everything. Atleast not for a long time and not all at once. The government is still always trying to act like they respect "Hunters and farmers." So it's pretty hard to keep up that facade when you have banned literally every single gun. So while I do think they will keep moving the goal posts until maybe where down to air rifles, muzzle loaders and single shot breach loading firearms a complete outright ban is going to be a hard pill to swallow as well as comically difficult to enforce.

Well, they really can't even get to that point without significant investment and forceful action. Among other violations. So I'd wager it's actually impossible.

But really, they don't have to go that far to achieve their objectives. All they really need to do is marginalize, radicalize, and demonize gun owners enough to justify "putting gun owners in their place." That is to say, force us all into a corner then paint over us.

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u/ant_accountant Jun 09 '26

Amen, rights are fought for and won. You don't hold your bowl out and ask for scraps.

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u/jwubadubdub Jun 10 '26

Those could be done quietly, and inside buildings, without raising suspicions though...

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u/dgod40 Jun 10 '26

It was the fact that it was so widespread that the government changed their tune.

The Canadian government ended prohibition in the 1920s because the bans were largely unenforceable, caused a massive spike in organized crime, and led to widespread disrespect for the law. Rather than eliminating alcohol, prohibition fueled a dangerous black market, depriving the government of millions in tax revenue.

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u/Metalock Jun 08 '26

We just had our MP at our Fish & Game for National Range Day, held an open house and BBQ, was a lot of fun. Huge turnout, too!

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u/22GageEnthusiast Jun 09 '26

Even if I'm reduced to single shot guns I will be out there shooting them.

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u/yummybunnybear Jun 13 '26

Some segments of our community are on life support at this point