r/canadaguns • u/ivanlarav • Jun 03 '26
Buy recommendations Gun Safe
Yay or nay? $499 CT.
I forgot to add some context here.
I’m planning to put at least five in there:
- Kel-Tec KSG12 with a red dot
- Adler 224 with a red dot
- Renegade with a Vortex Venom
- Mossberg 590R
- TBD
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u/snakeleather45 Jun 03 '26
The formula is amount of guns you plan on storing and multiply by 2. Then find a safe that holds twice as many and buy two of those safes.
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u/Flafson Jun 03 '26
By that math if I want to store 2 guns, I need room for 16, nice.
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u/ReturnOk7510 Jun 04 '26
Problem is, if you put more than one gun in a dark, small space, they will inevitably breed. My wife is always amazed at how life finds a way when I open my safe up and there's a brand new bundle of joy in it that she's never seen before.
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u/Weary_OLeary Jun 03 '26
If you are looking to hold 3-5 rifles that are all about the same length and you don't plan to get any more, in my opinion this seems like a decent option.
Editing to add: be cautious with carpet lined safes because they can trap moisture in and then damage your guns via water
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u/MourningWood1942 Jun 03 '26
You are going to have 100+ guns in the future for sure, get something bigger
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u/Matty_bunns Jun 03 '26
Whatever the amount they claim, divide that by two. Sometimes three. That’s a small safe, but if it suits your needs then giv’er. FYI, Cabelas has a decent sale on for safes right now.
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u/Dantheislander Jun 03 '26
Such regular sales there you can be sure the one you want be be on sale soon- but they discretely changed their canada maple leaf 40 gun range material thinner so it’s 30min fire vs 45 is that matters to you.
Judge by oal weight and gauge.
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u/Scary-Detail-3206 Jun 03 '26
Keep in mind that this isn’t fire rated, despite what they advertise.
I personally prefer the cheap gun cabinet style to these faux safes. I just buy more cabinets once I fill them up.
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u/Weary_OLeary Jun 03 '26
Excuse my ignorance, how can you tell if a safe is actually fire rated? And secondly, is there not a consumer protection law somewhere that prevents them from false advertising like that?
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u/Scary-Detail-3206 Jun 03 '26
I have a faux safe similar to the one OP linked that I bought 20 years ago, the fire-proofing is just a layer of 1/2” drywall. There are no special fire rated seals or anything so the heat from a house fire is free to enter through the door gasket once it melts. Watch a few YouTube videos on these sort of safes and you can see real life examples of them failing.
After I realized mine was not fireproof I went and spoke with a locksmith who carries actual fireproof gun safes. They start at around $4500 for a 25 gun safe with a 2 hour fire rating. He was the guy that turned me on to the cheap steel gun cabinets. I don’t own any family heirlooms that can’t be replaced. The locksmith suggested going with the $200 cabinets and insuring any firearms inside them separately.
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u/Hungrygoomba Jun 04 '26
Princess auto has big ones for cheap. Cabelas has regular sales on bigger ones for the same price.
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u/Lumindan Jun 03 '26
Whatever number you think you want, double it.
Safes are a long term investment
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u/Previous-Season-8800 Jun 03 '26
I have their 12 gun safe i have 6 guns in there, 2 of them have optics. They usually all have to come out even if I only need the one near the back lol. More like 4 gun safe.
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u/Response-Cheap Jun 03 '26
Meh. Got mine on Amazon for like $350. Thick sheet steel, digital keypad and keyed entry, got 6 guns stuffed in there. It's got an upper shelf, and pistol pouches and a little shelf on the back of the door, and a cheap interior light. Door has 4 solid steel deadbolts to it.. It's all you need. And the price is pretty reasonable.
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u/ivanlarav Jun 04 '26
You got a link? There are a lot of options on Amazon. Are they more like cabinets, or are they actual safes?
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u/Response-Cheap Jun 04 '26
https://a.co/d/0fTBlyEx the door is like a safe with a 1" bolt in the top and bottom of the door and two at the lock. It's not that heavy of metal, but heavy enough. It would definitely take time and power tools to break into. If the wrong code is input, it sets off an alarm. More than good enough to keep unauthorized people out.
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u/scottsuplol Jun 03 '26
I was always told take the number of guns they advertise and cut it in half that’s how many it will hold
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u/likebutta222 Jun 03 '26
Honestly, buy bigger than you need but look at the interior of the safe and ignore the marketing numbers. 32 gun safes maybe fit 10 rifles comfortably and not always with mounted accessories. Most are inflated numbers based on the skinniest of rifles plus a dozen tiny pistols.
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u/excellentiger Jun 03 '26
The rule of thumb is half the amount of guns they say. Get yourself a 30 gun and be done with it, for a while.
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u/Water-Foul Jun 04 '26
I have one that size and I'm able to get 4-5 in there pretty decently. 3-4 is what its meant for though.
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u/GinnAdvent Jun 04 '26
Are you getting it to meet the legal requirements?
In this case, gun cabinet would work too. I have Yukon Gear 12 gun cabinet, and I managed to fit 12 guns in it with aid of gun socks.
If you want better security, than safe is better. Some also protect against fire and water I think.
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u/ivanlarav Jun 04 '26
Not really, more like to protect my investment. And I could also use it to store credit cards I don't use, passports, cash, etc.
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u/567432Gains Jun 04 '26
What ever they advertise it can store, cut it in half.
I would recommend buying a 40 gun safe, I bought the hunt shield 40 gun safe from CT and I love it, but it feels crammed at 20 guns already.
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u/False-Fix8125 Jun 04 '26
I agree with others about the space. Check out this review on huntshield to get a better idea https://youtu.be/j5oI3g6TWDk?si=JNsoXpNEC9eUPRgG
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u/ivanlarav Jun 04 '26
That one is on sale right now at CT for $399.99, discounted from $599.99. It has good space, but I need to think about it. It’s either this one or a Remington/Cabela’s safe at around $1,300.
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u/ovjho Jun 04 '26
It’s always good to over do it when it comes to safety. Never skimp out on it.
However, if you’re simply looking to legally comply with safe storage, you can get metal cabinets for less that hold more, as long as they lock.
I’m in a position where no would just happen across my cabinet so that’s what I did. Less than half the cost of this for a cabinet, magnetic holders, and motion light strips. Currently contains more than the realistic max here.
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u/pooshlinger Jun 04 '26
I have a “8 rifle safe that fits 2 rifles and 2 shotguns, including an ammo can at the base. But its tight. Do get gun socks custhey will get bashed around
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u/Agitated-Choice2456 Jun 05 '26
Gun safes are a lot like tents. A 3 man tent won’t fit three men.
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u/ivanlarav Jun 05 '26
Yeah! Lots of good advice here. I ended up realizing that I need to spend about $1,300 on a Cabela’s/Remington safe haha. I really like this one, but even this one seems a bit small now haha.
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u/Aggressive-Many997 Jun 05 '26
I have this safe, I have 3 rifles with optics in mine and about 400 rounds of ammo on the top. Its tight with 3 rifles with optics. Biggest factor was that it's light enough that 2 people can move it as I plan on moving out of my apartment for a house soon.
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u/Relevant_Diver_3228 Jun 03 '26
How many are you trying to hold because with optics and rings that will hold about 5 guns max what you need to do is take the number of guns it says it can hold and divide it by two and subtract the handgun pouches