r/canadaguns Jun 03 '26

News / Politics / Activism Busniess assault style compensation program nightmare.

Story time everyone

So I work for a firearms Busniess is ontario.

Today i tried to submit some of the firearms that are currently prohibited under this ridiculous farce of a program.

Not only does the website not work. When I tried calling the person on the phone was no help what so ever.

The website won't let me start a claim and when I go to add the busniess info. The system just keeps on error in put saying that there is missing info.

Finally got annoyed and tried calling into the program for assistance. The person on the phone gave me the run around for 20mins. Asking me the same question repeatedly then placed me on hold. Told her that I am representing the company and kept asking for the owner to verify info. Informed her that I can provide her any information that she may need and still insisted she needs the owner on the phone.

How does this program expect anyone to cooperate baffles me when they make it nearly impossible to use.

Thank god I didnt participate in the individual buy back.

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u/LordRaizer Jun 03 '26

To quote Ontario Premier Doug Ford: "Gun owners, protect your guns... don't ever give them away"

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u/Geralt-of-Rivai Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

I mean if the premier of my province tells me not to give away my guns I have to listen right? He said it and I am obliging, federal government has a problem with it they can talk to him

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u/FishAye5 Jun 03 '26

Seems like a valid defense. Should stand up in court.

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u/VariousCheezez Jun 03 '26

As if you'll even get a court date lmao.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '26

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u/thisghy Jun 03 '26

Only real criminals get the luxury of not being accountable to the law in this fuckass country.

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u/Traditional_Bank2200 Jun 03 '26

“That’s a bold move cotton! Let’s see how it plays out.”

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u/neck-tourniquet Jun 04 '26

Too bad Doug can't.

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u/1882greg Jun 03 '26

Now if he’d just tell our attorney general to not enforce the buyback or any associated punishments - like Danielle Smith!

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u/Mo-Cance Jun 03 '26

Ugh...the most useless turd in politics still gets it right once in a blue moon.

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u/radkiller22 Jun 03 '26

If only he'd come down on Provost like an 800-lb gorilla

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u/redjohn79 Jun 03 '26

A broken clock is correct twice a day

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u/thxxx1337 Jun 03 '26

Welp. He said I had to. What choice did I have.

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u/Agent_1812 https://youtu.be/mrAwb9ptu9U Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 04 '26

yes, quote the former drug dealer and college drop-out

Doug Ford is also a populist, so go ahead and downvote

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u/illknowitwhenireddit Jun 03 '26

Wab Kinew? I don't think the Manitoba government has really taken any stance on this issue aside from virtue signalling.

No actual plan to help protect Manitobans from this program even though he says he disagrees with it.

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u/Agent_1812 https://youtu.be/mrAwb9ptu9U Jun 04 '26

no, Doug Ford and his brothers were drug dealers, Rob has three months of college

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u/LordRevan1996 Jun 03 '26

I think this is because it was never meant to work or seek cooperation. It’s just political smoke and mirrors to get votes. The more we criticize (rightfully so), the more they can argue we’re just crying children. Unlike Natalie, I don’t think Carney or Justin were true anti-gunners, but they aren’t against using issues to their advantage to gain support in and out of parliament. Either way it’s scummy.

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u/Mahatma_Ghandicap Jun 03 '26

They threw Provost a big juicy taxpayer funded bone and still it wasnt enough for her. Greedy b*tch.

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u/LordRevan1996 Jun 03 '26

They’re like PETA, they’ll never be satisfied regardless of the laws in place.

Advocacy groups are a double edged sword to democracy. Some bring attention and change to genuine issues, while others are just dogmatic ideologues who will stop at nothing to impose their world on you.

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u/Mahatma_Ghandicap Jun 03 '26

Yup... and now they set a precendent that is unsustainable. This is why we don't negotiate with terrorists! LOL

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u/Vegetable-Army-4872 Jun 03 '26

This was never to buy votes. Gun control is a WEF policy. 

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u/LordRevan1996 Jun 03 '26

Two things can be true at once.

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u/human-resource Jun 03 '26

More so part of the UN disarmament agenda, but it also suits the goals of the wef/great reset aka dystopian neofeudal globalist technocracy.

https://www.un.org/disarmament/sg-agenda/en/

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u/Vegetable-Army-4872 Jun 04 '26

Much bigger than just votes in Quebec. 

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u/Comprehensive_Luck43 Jun 03 '26

Call your local news outlet. If you can convince them to run something on how disastrously bad even the website is that'd be great.  

We need to keep drawing attention to it and you're in a strong position to do so.

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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 Jun 03 '26

And millions of dollars will go into it. Not the "compensation program" but the web portal for businesses alone.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/written-questions/45-1/q-605?expandquestion=true&response=13856711&section=ps

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u/HappyCan7250 Jun 03 '26

I gotta get into this business of designing apps and websites for government agencies. Quite the racket apparently. One contract and you're basically set for life it seems. 

Although sadly since I'm not a LPC donor or buddies with an LPC MP, I probably wouldn't get the contract anyway.

Maybe the government could just start using AI to design their websites. Or use one of those cheap website design template programs and make their website for like $50. Gotta funnel money to LPC & Friends somehow though I guess.

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u/BrightOrdinary4348 Jun 03 '26

Based on this post, and the stories surrounding ArriveCan, it seems like coding experience isn’t really necessary for winning government contracts to build apps.

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u/Barbarian_818 Jun 03 '26

Yup! Subcontracting and outsourcing are the keys to undeserved profits.

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u/thisghy Jun 03 '26

Could probably just vibecode them in a weekend. I bet thats all that these companies do, hence why they dont work lol.

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u/PetrolPaladin Jun 04 '26

Comparing Gov't of Canada apps with unproofread AI slop is an insult to slop.

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u/rastamasta45 Jun 03 '26

By the way, that website cost $1 million dollars

The program was designed to screw over ad many gun owners and gun businesses as possible to send a message to gun culture in Canada. The Canadian government hates Canadians and hates traditional Canadian values. This is the new “elbows up” Canada, where god is the LPC and they know what’s best for us.

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u/FrithTheCrow Jun 03 '26

How do they expect anyone to cooperate with this program?

They don't. It's about easy numbers. Even with the low percentage of compliance they're able to claim tens of thousands of firearms "off the streets", better numbers than they can get going after actual criminals. I'm sure the unfortunate side-effect of only harming political opponents is a total coincidence.

Tinfoil hat moment; PAL holders are a small percentage of the population and the right to bear arms isn't firmly established. Gun owners are an easy target to set a precedent for the erosion of property rights and confiscation without compensation. We are marching towards authoritarianism and I have no faith in the Supreme Court to act as a check on power.

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u/FromDeepestFathom Jun 04 '26

That’s not a tinfoil hat moment, that’s reality. In pretty much all “free” western type countries.

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u/GabRB26DETT Jun 03 '26

A future ArriveCan disaster waiting to happen. In a couple years we'll learn that it was Carney or Provost's buddies that worked on this unusable money pit

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u/schellenbergenator Jun 04 '26

At least ArriveCan works

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u/GabRB26DETT Jun 04 '26

For about 60 millions, it better lmao

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u/soviet_toster Jun 03 '26

If I were you I might try and reach out to a news organization that might be willing to publish your story

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u/ablemount Jun 03 '26

Maybe there is a spelling error?

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u/SocksOfDeath Jun 03 '26

Surely the person who misspelled business 3 times wouldn’t make that mistake.

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u/TescoValueSoup Jun 03 '26

G4C or Tenda by chance?

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u/throwaway11100217 Jun 03 '26

Go to the news with this, the more light we cab shine on the half assing this government is putting into this program the better.

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u/drugstoremechanic Jun 03 '26

(they don't know what they're doing)

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u/tghost474 Jun 03 '26

Thats the neat part; it doesnt.

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u/TermZealousideal5376 Jun 04 '26

This is probably just another arrivecan where most of the development money went to "friends"

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u/Cope180-Enjoyer Jun 04 '26

Similar concept with C0v1d close contacts. You got a letter in the mail that you were exposed to someone... 2 weeks later. If they really care it would have been sent registered mail same day.

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u/SocksOfDeath Jun 03 '26

It doesn’t seem crazy to me that they need to speak with the business owner over an employee for something like this.

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u/jollygreengiant1655 Jun 03 '26

It does to me. This is something that employees are perfectly capable of doing. A business owner doesn't need to waste their time on it

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u/zulu_tango73 Jun 03 '26

And how would the program representative verify they were speaking to the owner anyhow?

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u/some_guy2024 Jun 03 '26

Exactly. “Oh, you need to speak with the owner? Hold on a sec. Herro, this is the owner” 🤣

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u/PaveHammer Jun 03 '26

CEO of Cabelas Canada is going to spend all month on the phone with the CFC for their business inventory? I don’t think so.