r/canadaguns • u/IntroductionAny3929 • Jun 02 '26

Shitpost / Memes IWI Carmel Appreciation Post

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Howdy Folks,

The Texan is back with yet ANOTHER Gun Appreciation post, this time I have a bit of an old one that I made, but due to recent news about this gun, I had to share it with y’all!

The one and only:

IWI Carmel!

Coming Soon to the Canadian Gun Market!

If you are considering buying one, I have experience handling one, not shooting it unfortunately, but just handling one. I can still give my 2 cents about it, and why you don’t really hear about it much from us here in the states.

Holding it is actually not terrible, at first it feels like you are holding a brick… UNTIL!

You look at the stock, it folds to the side, but also has an integrated cheek riser. And the Length of Pull is adjustable as well.

Controls are fairly simple, it’s very similar to an ACR XCR in terms of being ambidextrous, and if you have experience with an AR-15 platform (or the C7/C8 if you were in the CAF), it’s fairly easy to get used to since it has very similar controls.

But what’s the actual selling point of it? And why is it not more popular in the US Civilian Market, and why would it benefit the Canadian market more?

Good question!

  1. The Major Selling point is the adjustable gas block, and because it uses a more AR-180 style of it, it’s more saturated for that niche, and it’s why you often see some people running these suppressed, it is mainly bought as the suppressor host gun.

  2. The reason why it’s not more popular in the US Civilian Market is because the market mainly likes to focus on the AR-15 platform, and it’s very difficult to advertise the rifle. AR-180 variants are a bit of a difficult sell here because again, the saturation of the US market is more catered to the AR-15 as it is more of a universal platform that is easier to work with, and is easier to get the parts for.

  3. As to how it would benefit the Canadian gun market, y’all have a bit more experiences with AR-180 platforms, and the market pool is much larger for them. I know some are restricted, but not all, still though, it is worth noting the saturation of the AR-180 market in Canada. It’s a lot better in the Canadian market.

Anyways, thanks for tuning in!

Enjoy!

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u/UnderstandingFirm432 Jun 02 '26

My apologies if this has been discussed and I missed it, but... what's all the hype for this (and similar) ones, when the govt. can just "amend" the list of banned/prohib to include this as well? Isn't that not what happened to the WKs?

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u/lunchbawkz Pineapple is the best pizza topping fight me Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 04 '26

For many people, this also represents the first opportunity to own a modern, well built, tactical rifle. Many newer shooters don't know what it was like to have owned an AR-15, let alone rifles like the XCR or ACR back in the day. There's also a ton of people who missed out either due to financial reasons or just being left with no stock as things were being panic bought before the bans.

Along with the Makasi, this also represents probably the best reliability and build quality over the last remaining semi 223 rifles here. The Backland Hunter has build and quality issues. The Akdas is good in it's form factor, but getting the "tactical" furniture on it is still a step below a purpose built rifle like the Makasi or Carmel (upgrading the furniture on the Akdas is like putting lipstick on a pig). If your thing is running around in the woods larping with nods then it's not even an argument.