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[u/Natural_Comparison21]

Last I checked Wab literally said the gun ban is dumb. You are conflicting the federal NDP with the prov NDP. The prov NDP is often quite different from the federal NDP (especially under Singh he sucked.) You know the NDP party in Sask straight up supported the conservative leading party on opposing the gun ban as well right? I get it the federal NDP has been pretty fucking cringe and the BC NDP is not fucking helping the case of the NDP not being anti gun. But it's pretty broad strokes to say the NDP period is anti gun at every level.

[u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 → u/Natural_Comparison21]

But it's pretty broad strokes to say the NDP period is anti gun at every level.

At every level? No

At most levels? Yes.

Remember that the federal NDP switched to being an urban first party, full time, some time in the 90s or early 2000s. Though, one could argue that the switch happened as early as the 70s I suppose. The majority of the provincial NDP followed suit. And I can't say I necessarily blame them. Only 17% of Canada's population is rural. You go where the votes are, that's how politics works. Sadly, the major population centers are for the most part, anti-gun/anti-gun owner to some degree. Furthermore, the rural and gun owning population have some significant overlap. The NDP aren't particularly interested in supporting or defending gun owners.

If anything, I'd say the Manitoban and Sask NDP are example exceptions that prove the rule.

[u/Natural_Comparison21 → u/Beneficial-Ride-4475]

I would argue that it’s more so a rural urban thing as you mentioned. In provinces that have a higher percentage of rural constituents you are more likely to see the NDP be pro gun. That and just higher percentage of pal holders helps to. Which is something we need to see happen.

[u/Dill_Pickle_Tears → u/Natural_Comparison21]

Yeah exactly. I AM weary that NDP is simply moving away from the LPC and aren’t committed to truly representing gun owners.

HOWEVER, I think it’d be quite foolish for this community to completely ostracize those on the opposite end of the political spectrum. It makes it easier to dismiss the entire community if people think that “Gun owners = conservative”

It also limited our voice and reach since ideally politicians fight to convince us as constituents that they’d best represent us. Better if the NDP jump in and oppose any future legislation or poor policy - and to those who’d turn their nose up at this concept: would it be better if left leaning parties voted against our better interests in parliament?