r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • May 25 '26

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u/Brapika Jun 04 '26

Even if you may be Fed propaganda you make some pretty good points...

In your opinion, if a person bought a now prohibited rifle after March(?) of 2022, when they started making it mandatory for shops to track serial numbers of non-restricted, would the RCMP actually be able to track this down to the average citizen? Asking for some people who like buying large diameter backyard piping.

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u/YourSnipingOperator Jun 04 '26

That backdoor registry is essentially useless. Once the gun is out of the stores hands, all the new owner needs to do is get a transfer reference number with another PAL holder, which doesnt track what is being sold/traded. Now do that three times with your friends and they do it three times with their friends. 

Let's say you buy a Carmel this summer. Go verify three of your friends PALs afterwards. Now that information from the store is useless the second one of your friends gets a PAL verification done somewhere else. Dont get me started on the effort it takes to lawfully get that information in the first place.

This is why as I said before, restricted owners are fucked. You dont have a way to obfuscate anything. You own x gun with x serial number at x address tied to x PAL number. You're not going to win a game of chicken with them. This is why I participated and dont fault anyone with restricteds who did. There's a reason the liberals wanted a registry of everything because it gives them an easy list of who to target. May as well make it expensive for them and get something for it. Go buy more non restricteds with the money and do a bunch of PAL verifications. Go buy a case of beer and invite all your buddies over for a PAL verification party

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Jun 04 '26

You could have always refused to participate in the buyback and destroy your restricted yourself. Apart from financial greed, there was really no forcing function to the buyback program. People panicked and complied.

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u/YourSnipingOperator Jun 04 '26

Well youre welcome to do that yourself, but I am not going to throw thousands of dollars away. Who am I making the point to, the liberals who dont care? Or would I be making it to get a pat on the back from other gun owners. Either way you're telling me and others to be both out a gun and out the cash value of it.

Is the CBC going to praise my activism and the boomers are going to wake up from their slumber?

Make this program as costly as possible for them, spend the money on guns to help the stores that are hurting. Destroying them yourself for no compensation is the best case scenario for the Liberals.

To add, calling people greedy for wanting some sort of compensation for something that they paid money for doesnt even make sense. Are you going to compensate those guys?

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Jun 04 '26

You are making the point to yourself. Not bending over to the government has a price and you weren’t willing to pay it. Don’t pretend like you were forced because you are cop, you chose to participate to get some money back. Lucky for you, the majority of gun owners did not choose to participate, giving you a bigger portion of the pie, hence the financial greed.

I am not telling any one what to do. Simply highlighting that there are options that do not involve legitimizing the “buyback” program. You are free to make up your mind, and I am free (for now) to comment.

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u/YourSnipingOperator Jun 04 '26

Explain to me how I would be able to just not comply as a cop/corrections/sheriff. Do you think I can testify in court while having a pending gun charge myself? Do you know what a code of conduct investigation involves? Do you have any idea how many prosecutions of crimes would be affected if the witness officers are accused of a serious offense?

How many registered restricteds do you own? What financial damage are you going to take in october when you ultimately get forced to hand them in when the amnesty is over? And ultimately, what would you accomplish?

Even if zero guns were turned in to the buyback, the liberals were not putting the brakes on this program.

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26

The buyback has nothing to do with being in compliance with the law. Like i said, you can self destroy and report to the CFO.

Like everyone else I am thousands of dollars out, and believe it or I have just as much to lose as anyone else (career, family etc) at the end of the amnesty.