r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • May 25 '26

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u/FunkyFrunkle May 26 '26 edited May 27 '26

The thing to keep in mind is that this still goes a respectably long way for shifting public opinion on this whole thing. It hurts the legitimacy of the program even more.

We can quibble over what exact legal arguments they’re going put forward and wether or not it really helps the case but at the end of the day, more provinces that want to become involved in the case against the government is objectively a positive thing because it keeps making the issue too big to ignore. It also sends a message to Ottawa that reaffirms how much of a headache this is, and that the provinces want nothing to do with it.

It’s stuff like this that dampens the political appetite to push for more.

This program is objectively a failure. Not just from our point of view; it is a failure. They only got 26,000 people out of 2.5 million potential owners to turn in their prohibited guns, which are well below even the governments low-ball expectations. A litany of police forces in some pretty big cities where you would expect this to be popular have all refused to participate. Almost all of the provinces and territories are against it and now it’s going to the Supreme Court with more provinces getting on board in the fight.

The gun control groups have been allowed to command the terms and conditions of this conversation from the safety of a vacuum for far too long and now the government is looking at potentially having their executive power legally neutered because of it. I cannot imagine they’re terribly happy about that, and I would hope that this forces them to reevaluate their close relationship with the gun control groups.

You love to see it. For a country that supposedly loves gun control, it doesn’t seem to be going so well.

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u/floydsmoot May 27 '26

>The thing to keep in mind is that this still goes a respectably long way for shifting public opinion on this whole thing

That's the thing. The majority of Canadians either hate guns or really don't give a shit about them. I suspect more of the latter. If you have no skin in the game, you're not going to fight against these stupid gun laws (and I'm not talking about Fudds whom I don't trust).

Show Canadians a use for guns (other than hunting or sport shooting) and they'll stand up to these idiots.

The only way I can see that happening if guns are accepted as a viable means of self defence.

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u/CountryFine May 27 '26

Most Canadians who are anti gun or even indifferent to them are much more open to the argument of guns for sport and hunting as opposed to guns for self defence.

Guns for defence has a very “american” connotation which is in direct conflict to most of that groups political views.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 27 '26

The only way you can generally break that cycle is bringing up a country like the Czech Republic and even then that’s quite a hit or miss move.

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u/floydsmoot May 28 '26

move there in a heartbeat if I was much younger

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 28 '26

Move to France. Atleast you can get black powder revolvers without a license.

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u/floydsmoot May 28 '26

still a language barrier

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 28 '26

In what like day to day communication or? As I remember you talking about wanting to move to a country like Spain, France or Italy?

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u/floydsmoot May 28 '26

to pass a gun test in Czechia you need to be very fluent and I'm never going to learn that bugger of a language at my age.

Really not interested in black powder--more interested in CCW

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 28 '26

I was talking about France. However in the Czech Republic if you are a perm resident you can conceal carry a double barrel black powder handgun no license. Just some food for thought.