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[u/Natural_Comparison21]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/tumbler-ridge-mass-shooting-rcmp-guns-9.7207560 I am honestly a little shocked Poly isn't just making this about guns but the fact the police but more so the court system fucked up big. I think that tells me they realize that this time around they don't have as much momentum for banning guns from this shooting. The focus seems to heavily be on AI and the police/courts not doing enough.

[u/FunkyFrunkle → u/Natural_Comparison21]

The circumstances that continue to surround this tragedy are hard to ignore, and it’s difficult to condense everything that cultivated into this shooting down to just “guns”.

From the very beginning, the conversation focused on mental health and the grim reality with respect to access to mental health services in rural communities because objectively, that is the major blindspot that allowed a volatile situation to boil over.

I would also put forth that it wasn’t the police that fucked up. They did everything they were supposed to do. They seized the guns from the home. It was the courts that fucked up when they ordered the guns to be returned. I don’t know what went into that decision, but given a lot of high profile cases that have been in the news lately, nobody knows what the courts are doing.

There’s no way to get around that. It was an abject failure of the courts and that’s what people are rightly talking about. The credibility of the buyback in our current context is in active free-fall, and if the gun control groups try to hijack the conversation, it’s not going to be as well received as it has been in the past especially after the spectacle of the last scrum with Provost.

The mishandling of the Nova Scotia massacre involving Brenda Lucki is also still fresh in peoples minds, and it really didn’t help the gun control push in the long run. It left a bad taste in peoples mouth.

[u/Natural_Comparison21 → u/FunkyFrunkle]

Well my big take away from Nova was the police were utterly useless if not down right malicious in that one. Like they literally gave themselves a new Nick name of firehall shooters from that one. Goes nicely with the sleigh dog killers.

But yea. Poly can try to make this about guns and no doubt they will but it’s not going to go much of anywhere. The reality is beyond adding a handful more guns to a OIC list or a FRT ban the push for more gun bans is coming to a end. People in general are concerned about the cost of living. When you are actively cutting programs to help people but are keeping a gun ban that wastes billions of dollars it gets even a regular person questioning the narrative.