r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • May 11 '26

Recurring Canadaguns Politics and Debate Thread

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u/Zealousideal-Hat5814 May 11 '26

Castle Law debate, GO!

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u/WeightedDips95 May 11 '26

We're not the US, and we aren't in the wild west. We know more guns = more violence. It's nothing more than a toxic individualist- maple MAGA american-style fantasy. Just call the police like a normal person, and leave your valuables on the front porch. We dont even need to get into the humanitarian aspect that what amounts to an extra-judicial murder would disproportionately impact BIPOC people and people experiencing poverty. Public health experts agree.

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u/dsac May 11 '26

nothing you said is incorrect, however the debate rests on if someone whose home is being invaded should be able to defend themselves (not necessarily their property) with equal force as is being presented.

if someone breaks in to your house with a knife, and you turn it around and stab them instead, hardly anyone would argue that you should be prosecuted for that. the extension of that logic goes for any weapon - bat, crowbar, and yes, even gun.

similarly, if the country ("your home") was invaded by armed people, there's zero debate about the reasonableness of shooting them. home invasions can be considered merely a micro version of a ground invasion.

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u/WeightedDips95 May 11 '26

I’m sad that you didn’t recognize my comment as irony. It is also wrong. I don’t think there’s any provable correlation between civilian ownership of guns and crime 

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u/dsac May 11 '26

except it's not wrong.

We're not the US, and we aren't in the wild west.

true

We know more guns = more violence.

also true(ish) - more guns = more gun violence

It's nothing more than a toxic individualist- maple MAGA american-style fantasy.

there's zero question that those people insist that castle doctrine is fair and reasonable (amongst other groups as well)

Just call the police like a normal person,

yes, you should be doing this

and leave your valuables on the front porch.

obviously hyperbole

We dont even need to get into the humanitarian aspect that what amounts to an extra-judicial murder would disproportionately impact BIPOC people and people experiencing poverty.

literally the case - poor people commit way more violent crimes than non-poor people. there are way more BIPOC people who are poor than white people (as a % of their respective populations).

Public health experts agree.

generally, public health experts do agree that shooting someone is bad and could lead to their death.

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u/WeightedDips95 May 11 '26

I said more guns = more violence, then you and your study changed it to more guns = more gun violence. Thats the only part that really matters, the rest is completely irrelevant, its just brain dead and thought-terminating nonsense pushed by people that hate us.