r/canadaguns Apr 28 '26

Shooting TIL that Colt Canada supplies entire countries with black rifles

https://youtu.be/5D5z0AbOjmM?si=B5e80wgqzh93dz80

Denmark, Netherlands, UK, Norway, Botswana ... all these militaries buy Canadian black rifles and Canadian Elcan optics.

Yet we Canadian citizens can't, ugh. The irony! ​

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u/swift_gilford Apr 28 '26

I'd argue this is a part of, if not a major reason a lot of people give Colt shit in recent years (pre buyback drama)

Their main focus is government contracts, not civilians.

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u/Whispersfine Apr 28 '26

Civilian market however is much more lucrative. Yes they have large bulk order from the defense contracts but civilian firearms are usually more expensive and cheaper to make. Consumers pay premium for mil specs they probably never needed.

The average price of M4 is only 800 some USD for military but in civilian markets, I’m sure many suckers in this sub will pay 3000 Canadian pesos for a real M4.

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u/thecoolernameistaken Apr 28 '26

I’d drop 2k easy

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u/casa_del_porno Apr 28 '26

I disagree, not necessarily more lucrative, especially when you consider all of the intermediaries and other requirements like paperwork. Also, the military contractor gets to make a premium on accessories and spare parts for the military contracts. That shitty Triad on the C7 costed the CAF about $200… ‘cause CAF didn’t want a forehand with integrated picatinny rails. Pretty sure CC sold that shitty cocking handle for a sweet profit too

CC released civilian version of the C7/C8 for less than 2K a few years ago.

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u/Disclosjer Apr 28 '26

Contracts also provide consistent dependable revenue which is easier to strategically plan around compared to civilian sales.

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u/TheRealPaladin Apr 28 '26

I don't think that you understand just how lucrative military contracting actually is.

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u/Opening-Ad8300 Apr 29 '26

Dudes smoking some crazy shit if he thinks there’s more money to be made supplying a handful of civilian enthusiasts over entire military/law enforcement agencies and units.

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u/Whispersfine Apr 29 '26

You need to learn to read my friend. Lucrative and bigger profit yielding are two different things.

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u/looloopklopm Apr 29 '26

Lucrative is literally defined as producing a great deal of profit.

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u/EinGuy Because Canada Apr 29 '26

lol I think you seriously overestimate the size of the Canadian market. Or really any civilian market in the world. There is a reason KAC, HK, LMT, etc. ignore the civilian market when they win big contracts.

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u/HungryFollowing8909 May 01 '26

Mil specs???

As every contract in Government procurement, the Golden Rule is: Everything is made by the Lowest Bidder. Everything.

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u/-rifle-is-fine- Apr 28 '26

You would think they would jump on the double dip.

Make money selling us the gun, then make money helping the Liberals steal them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

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u/Ok_Molasses3797 May 01 '26

Govt contract…

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u/Altruistic_Ad_0 Apr 28 '26

This is why it pains me to have our rifles banned. If whole countries want them I want one too!

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 29 '26

They are basically our very own H&K. Making bank with militaries and they DGAF about civvie sales.

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u/lerch_up_north lost in the praries Apr 29 '26

Colt Canada - because we hate you, eh

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u/Whispersfine Apr 28 '26

China also supplys the world with fentanyl but they don’t sell domestically.

What’s my point? “Tactical firearms” are contrabands in this country and soon maybe all firearms will be.

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u/IcySkyDream Apr 28 '26

Precursors. Important distinction.

The actual fentanyl is usually made in North America.

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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR Apr 28 '26

Canada does our very best to help in that department... ELBOWS UP!!!

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 29 '26

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u/Blackhawk510 ns Apr 29 '26

KAC has lost contracts for a reason.