r/canadaguns • u/Antijawa • Apr 22 '26

Buy recommendations Any info on the 12" Derya Tm22?

I have been looking at getting a TM22 as my first purchase as a new PAL holder. Obviously, I've been down the rabbit hole and back looking at either the pro 18" or the 16". I heard there is maybe a 12" version becoming available in June...does anyone have any info on this? I haven't been able to find much beyond someone mentioning it in comments across some other posts/forums etc.

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u/dke783 Apr 22 '26

For your first rifle, I recommend the 16" or 18" barrel Pro over a 12" barrel.

The main reason I suggest this is the longer sight radius. As a new shooter, building your sight picture discipline is a core skill that you will use for the rest of your shooting career. It is difficult to build that skill with a short barrel.

Secondly: the TM22 will not group tightly with a short 12" barrel. You will regularly land your shots in the B / C / D zones on your target at 50 yards. That will get frustrating while you are building your trigger pull discipline and your breathing technique.

A short barrel will be fun for the novelty, for sure. I suggest that the 16" or 18" rifle will serve you better in the long run

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u/therowdyirishman Apr 23 '26

My fudd lore hound is growling at the door. Here's my take on the new SBR vs aluminum 18.5 decision. 11.5-13in barrel is a common choice for carbines in the states for a reason. Less barrel (when feasible) is always a bonus for weight and maneuverability. In 22LR a 12in barrel is plenty accurate and velocity loss is not significant. We land centred hits on a 2/3 torso with my Ruger 22/45 Lite at 50yds, it's sporting a 4.4" pencil thin barrel. Smoking golf balls with it at 25yds is always very doable!

However, you're 100% correct that for iron sight usage, the long handguard 18.5" model would have a longer (better) sight radius. That being said, embrace the future! You're modern carbine deserves a modern optic. A red dot facilitates learning a heads up/target focused, eyes lead gun follows shooting style. IMO this is a better way to learn the fundamentals vs iron sights. You also can run normal flip up irons on a TM22 by getting an MLOK riser for the handguard. See my post below for an example. I've got a lower 1/3 cowitness so I can practice with irons, RDS or 3x magnifier. https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/s/4jRIIPkCkH