r/canadaguns • u/DustyPotatoes22 • Mar 18 '26

Misc Is Black Creek Labs still making commercial firearms?

Was hoping to get my hands on a Bison in 5.56 this year, but it seems like everywhere is sold out, and the BCL site is down (for me at least). Anyone have any info on this?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tie35 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

It looks like they might be rebranding again, the link to their website say "NEXT Dynamics" on google

Edit: yeah, googling next dynamics shows the SRV2 on their website.

Edit 2: it looks like next dynamics has existed for a while, and Rob MacIntyre has been the CEO since last year, so he probably just offloaded BCL into it.

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u/CAFirearmSociety Mar 18 '26

Third name change, but same shitty products.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tie35 Mar 18 '26

It looks like they're getting out of the civilian market

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

They've been marketing the full auto SRV2 Skunkbear and Badger since like what, 2021? I guess they landed 0 military contracts in the last 5 years.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tie35 Mar 18 '26

If they did it wouldn't be for a western nation, the AR18 was always designed for cheap production

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

The original AR-18 was designed for cheap production as it was a stamped gun with looser tolerances. Modern AR-18 derived piston guns are milled and are no easier to make than an AR-15, which humankind has perfected them down to such a degree that a $400 Norinco CQ is still reliable.

On the other hand, stamped AR-18s only made sense for military mass-production in order to neutralize the tooling costs via economy of scale.

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u/waitwhatnothing Mar 18 '26

The only reason they made AR-18 based designs was to comply with our dumb laws. It was more expensive to do that than making AR-15s.

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u/DougMacRay617 Mar 18 '26

Yeah i got stuck with their old shitty NEA AR 15. Absolute pile of shit

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

They can change their names however many times they want, it won't change the fact that they sold assault rifles to terrorists and made the headlines lol

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u/NVZ_v1 Mar 18 '26

To be completely fair they never sold firearms to the PKK, the PKK was seizing firearms shipments left and right between 07-16.

Hence why Turkey issued a warning with supplying firearms across the border without security personnel.

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

Still funny that they managed to export them, knowing how bad NEA's products are lol

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u/NeruLight Mar 18 '26

Or they could be freedom fighters?

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

PKK is a terrorist group recognized by Canada and NATO.

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u/NeruLight Mar 18 '26

Oh wow you can read from a script bravo

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

I guess I'm just old, but since when is Reddit supporting the Kurds and call them "freedom fighters"?

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u/NeruLight Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

I’m not petitioning the gov to revoke that classification. At least you understand who the Kurdish people are so that’s a positive. Your whole point was: “some bad guys got these guns, therefore the gun maker is bad.” I guess Barrett and McMillan are bad too, by your way of thinking? I mean, you even said: “sold guns to them” which is an incorrect statement per the very article you posted….

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 18 '26

I just found it amusing that NEA's shitty products made it to the news headlines in the wildest way possible. No need to look that deep. 

Thanks for correcting me that they, indeed, did not directly sell guns to them.

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u/NeruLight Mar 18 '26

Unserious lol