r/canadaguns Mar 09 '26

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MRA Renegade, what do we think? I’ve had nothing but fun with it.

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u/FedInformant Mar 09 '26

As far as doing drills and shooting quickly, I think levers are the only way

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u/CryptidWorks CryptidWorks Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

I do drills with my CZ trail. Works pretty well.

I run an oversized bolt knob and shoot mad minute style. The trigger is only 1.5lb (though measured more like 1.35, possibly due to being very broken in at this point and I have several thousand rounds through it) and I have large hands so it's very intuitive.

If there was a similar .308 rifle, I'd be all over it. The BCL ones aren't quite it for me. The Q fix is probably the closest but gawd dayum is it too rich for my blood.

EDIT: Oh my god the Sig Sauer Cross Sawtooth 16" might be my new grail gun.

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u/FrankDodger Mar 10 '26

Second cz600 trail. The bolt opens fast and smooth enough, the shape and controls are close enough, the attachment points are great. Im considering getting a 300 blackout version. Mine is 556

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u/CryptidWorks CryptidWorks Mar 10 '26

Nice! My local has a 5.56 and I'm debating that pretty hard. The 300BO seems like it would open up a ton of really goofy/fun reloading options, if you're into that, heh

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u/Opening-Ad8300 Mar 09 '26

Pump action rifles could work, too. Like that one from Australia, except that one’s really expensive for what you’re actually getting.

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u/FedInformant Mar 09 '26

Yea, I think im only aware of the Troy in canada? I dont know much about them though. Most likely cheaper than going with that stanag mag fed Henry lever

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u/Opening-Ad8300 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

From what I’ve heard, they do fine, just pricey for what it is. It’s definitely a niche, as in reality most civilian AR rifles are just semi auto, as they’re pretty much built for the USA, and can be still be used even in heavy anti gun states like California (with weird laws around butt stocks and mag releases). America quite literally has no reason for a bolt/pump action AR.

Gun manufacturers don’t really want to attempt any more AR looking weapons up here, because they get banned on a whim, and thus end up being a waste of money and time.

On a personal note, I just really dislike the idea of a mag fed lever action. I’d rather just get a normal one for style points.

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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 09 '26

Gotta go with the Australians for pump action rifles. Or Turkish made for the Australian market.  Their laws make pump action shotguns more restricted oddly but pump action rifles are A OK.

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u/FedInformant Mar 09 '26

That's fair. I think they are sweet, just not willing to dish out 3k for a lever.

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u/Opening-Ad8300 Mar 09 '26

Yeah, I completely agree. I don’t think $3000 is it worth it for any gun in today’s world of bans anyways. It could end up being an expensive display piece overnight.

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u/FedInformant Mar 09 '26

Yea I'd be surprised if it got banned but fuck you never know. Just the fact its stanag mag fed might be enough to ban it. Id take a 45-70 or 30-30 too, but they are pricey as hell too

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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 09 '26

Even getting a cheaper 357 or 44mag is pretty fun to be honest.  Grabbing a Rossi made lever on sale can get as low as 800-900 bucks if you are patient.

At that price point, the money/fun ratio is crazy high!

Got my 357 for 800 bucks and it's a blast at the range. If I had gone up to 44mag, it would be a bit more expensive to shoot,  but I bet launching that bigger chunk of lead would be a lot of fun

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u/Lopsided_Ad3516 Mar 09 '26

I picked up the Levtac 92 for some lever fun. Couldn't justify $1500-$2000 on a lever action when I got it so it worked out. Not the most polished firearm but it is functional.

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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 09 '26

That was my thoughts too.

Had to do a bit of tweaking to make it work the way I wanted, tighten some screws, soften  the sharp edges on the loading gate.  That's OK, considering I saved 1k dollars. 

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u/FedInformant Mar 09 '26

Yea for sure , Id hop on that no problem

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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 09 '26

Even in just this economy in general. I can't afford to have 3000 tucked away in a single gun that I may or may not use.

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u/Iokua_CDN Mar 09 '26

Troy and the Taipan from Australia 

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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 09 '26

I have the SAR and it has been pretty good. Super accurate, just wish it had a slightly heavier barrel, but since barrels are AR compatible I can always swap it if I wanna spend the money at some point. Nice looking rifles too. SAR is the straight pull version but very similar to the PAR. 

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u/BilboBaggSkin Mar 10 '26

I’d love to get an upper and lower to reuse my AR parts. But honestly the AR ergonomics are just not suited to a bolt action.

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u/FedInformant Mar 10 '26

Do they have a left side charge handle?

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Mar 09 '26

Wouldn’t a pump AR-style rifle be the best? In terms of similar ergonomics and speed