If push comes to shove - destruction question

[u/N714YQ]

I have absolutely no intention of forfeiting my working AR15 to the state.

That being said, if it comes down to the wire and they start leaning on us even harder as October 30 approaches, are they expecting to steal intact, working rifles?

Because I have a chop saw, and will cut my rifle into pieces and bring the scraps in a bag to the cop shop. Because fuck ’em is why.

Being the dickhead statists they are, you would probably have to make sure that the scraps have a “trigger lock” and are enclosed in a locked hard sided container.

Any thoughts?

[u/MrWrock → u/[deleted]]

I have a Smith and Wesson FPC. The reciever is essentially a buffer tube with a serial number. If I cut it in half, I'd never be able to cycle the action but I could place a round in the chamber then stick the bolt in I think. I guess the bolt would shoot out the back with the receiver chopped but the gun would still fire. Does destroying the firearm require making it unable to fire or can I simply fuck up the reciever and call it deactivated?

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/MrWrock]

There are very specific requirements for a firearm to be considered deactivated. I don't have it right in front of me (google it), but you need to drill the chamber, and weld a rod down the barrel, and weld the bolt shut. Might be more required as well.

[u/613mitch → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Deactivated is not the same as destroyed. No one is asking about how to deactivate their firearm.

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/613mitch]

Guy I was responding to literally ended his response with "...and call it deactivated".

[u/613mitch → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Ah, my bad. I think they meant destroyed by the rest of their post.

[u/MrWrock → u/613mitch]

I didn't realize there was a distinction. Thanks for clarifying!

[u/Ambitious_Joke6146 → u/[deleted]]

& that’s previously restricteds ?

If hypothetically: John Doe had a Non restricted like the GSG… which became prohibited.

Other than the bill of sale, there’s no evidence John Doe still owns the GSG.

[u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 → u/[deleted]]

Good thing I destroyed mine before they were prohibited, I hate guns so much I buy them just to chop them up

[u/Ambitious_Joke6146 → u/[deleted]]

My apologies, I mean regardless of it being destroyed.

If a Previously NR’d isn’t reported to the buy back program, the Gov, wouldn’t know about it?

Meaning it’s not registered etc etc

[u/AdministrationOk1083 → u/[deleted]]

Boris will inform me if they kick my door down

[u/OnlyGayIfYouCum → u/Ambitious_Joke6146]

Especially if John Doe bought it off a dude in a Canadian tire parking lot without so much as a PAL reference check done by the seller.

[u/Ambitious_Joke6146 → u/OnlyGayIfYouCum]

Hey, In Canada, It’s only Illegal if it’s legal !

If you do something illegally illegal… it’s actually legal !

Tell that to corruption !

[u/FromDeepestFathom → u/[deleted]]

The upper matters in Canada??

Every day this country blows my mind a little bit more.

[u/AlbertaFree16 → u/[deleted]]

… just phone and report?

Nice………… 👀

[u/outline8668 → u/[deleted]]

Doesn't the legislation just say I needs to be reported to a peace officer? I wonder what happens if you call your local police, report it to a cop and record the call. It's nothing they want to deal with but I believe you have satisfied the law.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

The upper is not a firearm, there's no legal duty to report anything to do with it. Your comment is bad legal advice.

Edit: If you think otherwise, please cite the law that requires you to report the destruction of a prohibited device.

[u/ImpossibleWitness505 → u/[deleted]]

Do you have to send proof?

[u/China_bot42069 → u/[deleted]]

Did you see runkles video? As well this would be pretty easy for us to”techy” people to by pass. I’m only speaking in hypothetical/what if terms 

[u/China_bot42069 → u/[deleted]]

Yes same if I didn’t have young kids and a wife I wouldn’t care but with those people know way I’m putting my family in harms way or stress 

[u/[deleted] → u/ImpossibleWitness505]

There is no legal requirement to send proof. If they ask, tell them to speak with your lawyer.