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From CSSA

Amendments G-4 and G-46: A Quick Explanation

A number of our members have contacted the office with questions regarding the government's withdrawal of Amendments G4 and G46. They want to know what this means to them – what they can and cannot do. This is understandable as the goalposts seem to be constantly shifting.

There have been four major initiatives directed against lawful gun owners by the federal Liberals.

The May 2020 Order in Council: This is the original Order in Council (OiC) that banned 1,500 makes and models of sporting and hunting firearms under the guise of "assault weapons". The RCMP has slowly expanded this list to now include 2,058 makes and models. This OiC was unaffected and remains fully in force although none of the firearms have been confiscated and, despite the government's professed promises, no compensation program has been created.

Bill C-21: This legislation is the Handgun Freeze. It bans the sale, purchase and transfer of legal handguns in Canada. Criminals are unaffected. It allows the legal owner of these handguns to keep and use them until the owner's death at which time, the firearms are legally stolen by police from the grieving family and destroyed. This legislation is currently in practice, and we have many reports of confiscations occurring within a few days of the owner's demise. Our advice to the families of the deceased owners is to inform the police that the executor will retain possession pending deactivation.

Amendment G-4: This is the so-called "Evergreen Clause". This bans all semi-automatic, centerfire firearms with box magazines, now and in the future. This amendment captured huge numbers of hunting firearms, sparked outrage amongst hunters and has been withdrawn.

Amendment G-46: This was the newest list (309 pages) of firearms the government wants to steal from you and includes many common hunting and sport firearms like the ubiquitous SKS rifle, the Ruger PC Carbine, and a huge list of common Benelli shotguns. Again, no mention of compensation – just theft from Canadians. This amendment was also withdrawn. See the list of firearms HERE.

We are cautioning our members not to enjoy the reprieve too much. The feds are simply regrouping and are planning to amend the amendments and reintroduce a newer version again.

Keep the pressure on and let the government know how you feel. Understand that the Liberal party is not our friend and doesn't care about you, your property or your family. Understand too, the only real cure for all of this is governmental change. Please work tirelessly toward that goal.

Please contribute to our lawsuit against Bill C-21 so that families can keep the sport shooting tradition, and the generational wealth invested handgun collections. Above all, don't be complacent and never give up!

[u/chillyrabbit → u/Beretta_errata]

Well I can't believe a lawyer wrote that as it has a serious error which compounds the misunderstanding. C-21 is not in effect yet as it is still pending legislation in the house of commons.

More accurately the government is using OiC's from different acts to create a regulatory regime similar to C-21.

Issuing an oic under the export and import permit act to restrict handguns from being imported.

Issuing an oic under the firearms act changing the conditions to transfer a handgun.

It still sucks but it is not C-21

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Maybe a typo meaning c-71

Also difficult to keep track of "An Act to amend certain Acts and to make certain consequential amendments"

Really? Do they speak consequential English?

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Yeah it's a real mouthful trying to properly quote stuff.

But I still don't think C-71 would count either, as really both the export import permit act and the Firearms act have been in force for decades now, and the government always could have done regulatory changes like this (handgun import ban, and handgun transfer ban) within those powers.

I really do think they meant to quote C-21 seeing as how it refers to a handgun ban, but C-71 never covered handguns. A mistake like that, just creates more confusion because they are saying that C-21 is in force when it really isn't.