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[u/Batsinvic888]

It's official MacGregor is off SECU.

I look forward to supporting @MPJulian in his work on #SECU and #C21 going forward and briefing him on the amendments we carefully crafted from witness testimony and submissions.

This is a huge blow. Any optimism I had about his amendments are gone. I'm back to just hoping for the largest delays, changes in the Senate, and an election.

[u/Eoghanwheeler → u/Batsinvic888]

Kind of huffing the Hopium here but It is possible that Julian will present MacGregors amendments by the sound of that tweet.

[u/Batsinvic888 → u/Eoghanwheeler]

That is very possible but there are two problems

• He can't argue for them like MacGregor could
• Julian is fully supported of the way the current handgun freeze is

I had expected MacGregor's motions to take up the most time for the rest of the SECU meetings, but I doubt that now. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the amendment are rapid style voted on and it gets sent to the Senate by the end of February.

[u/Office_Responsible → u/Batsinvic888]

I feel that the amendments will be reintroduced. I also feel that this is pyrrhic victory for us. The withdrawal of the amendments has taught the LPC some lessons. They might not be as aggressive next time and slowly bleed the types of firearms available. We also lost MacGregor as a champion for our cause. We are still losing handguns and I’m sure the amendments will be reintroduced. Gun control is a distraction from all the other shit going on and it’s working as intended

[u/Batsinvic888 → u/Office_Responsible]

I feel that the amendments will be reintroduced.

That is about the only thing we can say won't happen. Julian clarified what happened last week a bit when he was on CBC. He basically confirmed the speaker had the motion in front of him to rule the amendments out of scope and the LPC pulled them before that happened. He was very clear in that interview that he wanted to focus on ghost guns as an amendment.

[u/Office_Responsible → u/Batsinvic888]

Maybe not reintroduced as amendments to the current bill but reintroduced in a new bill perhaps, maybe I’m just cynical but I don’t believe this is the last we have seen of those lists of bans

[u/Batsinvic888 → u/Office_Responsible]

Yes, I suspect a revised version of G4 will appear in a new bill. I think it may take a while, but I would be shocked if it didn't come before the end of the year.

Maybe after C-21 receives Royal Assent, which looks to be in the fall.

[u/GinnAdvent → u/Batsinvic888]

Woah, if C-21 got the Royal Assent, wouldn't that make it harder for future government to change?

[u/Batsinvic888 → u/GinnAdvent]

Yes, it would require the CPC to have a majority to undue the handgun freeze.

I'm not that fussed about it in the long run though because the CPC need a majority to rewrite the Firearms Act anyway.

[u/GinnAdvent → u/Batsinvic888]

Yes, that is true but most of us, no matter how small it is, would prefer it not etched in stone, then have to re etch it again down the road.

Because Liberal will definitely use it as a wedge issue.

At the very least, maybe we should write some thank you letters to MacGregor that at least he has the initiative to investigate it on his own and make correct judgement on the matter.