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u/DEADxDAWN Aug 03 '22

Seeing how flimsy stack on safes are, I found a steel, double walled locking vertical office cabinet, for a 1/4 of the price.

Reading up on securement, would I be able to legally use this as a safe?

E:temp solution, not a forever safe.

metal cabinet

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u/cryrid Aug 03 '22

Personally, I'd just treat it as an office cabinet and ensure that any restricted or prohibited firearms stored inside of it it have their own secure locking device as a result.

Being metal, it could count as a safe (see Johnny Sombrero / R. v. Barnes), but I wouldn't want to be in a position to have to argue that, especially without seeing the cabinet first hand to know how sturdy it may be.

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u/DEADxDAWN Aug 03 '22

Thats the general consensus. I planned on having trigger locks on all restricted anyways. Plus the cabinet is in a locked room. This cabinet has 3 different lockable areas which is a nice feature.

Hoping there's a good deal on a large fire rated safe this xmas!

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u/cryrid Aug 04 '22

As far as cabinets go it looks like it'll do the job, so if the restricted firearms have their own locks then you're good to use it.

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u/Scopequest Aug 03 '22

Here's my thoughts:

That cabinet is definately not a school locker or a stack on safe. Its not obviously a better safe. Either it's similar safeyness and upon police interaction you well need to prove this in court; or is less a safe but should still be considered one, and you well need to prove that in court. Either way you get to go to court to set new legal precedent at great cost to you.

I think that is less secure than either of those things known to be a safe and should not be considered a safe.

Is it a container that is not readily broken into? I think maybe, despite the terrible placement of the lock on the large door. Try locking it and seeing if the door flexes much, could a kid pull that open from the bottom corner?

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u/DEADxDAWN Aug 03 '22

Its definetly stronger than the cheapest stack on at Cdn Tire. Weighs about double as well.

I could pry into a single walled stack on as easy as this cabinet (being double walled doors does help).

Regardless, all guns will have trigger locks, and the room has a keyed door as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '22

I would just buy the cheap gun safe and bolt it to the wall for legality sake.