r/canadaguns Jun 06 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

We have been focusing on target shooting and hunting since forever. Me and a handful of other users keep trying to hammer in this point that it doesn't work yet people still keep insisting on it. It's been 30+ years of sports shooting and hunting - give it a rest.

Guns are inherently political so trying to dodge it for the sake of courtesy is beating around the bush. I get your point but it doesn't work.

The CCFR is currently swamped with legal challenges. I wonder where my money is going but until we have another group equivalent to the Firearms Policy Coalition or GOA, the CCFR and NFA are the best options we have.

No offence but the rest of this post seems like thinly veiled cope so you can try and persuade yourself to vote CPC and save your guns. I've said it before I don't understand this fascination to move the CPC centre left just so people can feel "ok" to vote for them. If the thought of checking an X beside the federal CPC MP is enough to give you chills I highly suggest you get off the internet and stop being terminally online.

Also what is this fascination with abortion? It's been done and over with. No one gives a shit about it.

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u/Doctor_Dabmeister Jun 07 '22

I'm going off from my own personal experience of growing up in the GTA. I have friends/family still living there who have rarely seen a gun in real life unless it was carried by a cop. They're the type of people who get scared when they hear people duck hunting. If I can convince some of them not to fear guns or legal gun owners, I consider that progress. Those are the voters who decide elections so we have to start somewhere.

I support the use of guns for self defence by trained and licensed individuals but good luck convincing any urban voter that in our current time. While its hard to not talk about guns and politics in North America, I still want people to be more comfortable around guns and gun owners before discussing politics.

I ain't coping just yet as I haven't made up my mind for the next election lol, I still got like 2 years at least. Its hard to ask anyone to put a price on their beliefs. I just chose abortion since everyones talking about it recently but I also support drug decriminalization and I'm against minimum sentencing.

If O'Toole is as left as the CPC is willing to go then I'm not confident they'll be able to secure a majority or convince other parties to form a coalition. Who knows, guess we'll see in 2025?

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '22

I'm going off my own experience as well. Not discounting yours by any means but I've said it in a reply to another user - proof of concept exists. I've convinced a good amount of people about guns in Canada. Many said they want an AR15 or a handgun for their own safety but never knew how to actually go about it. Urban voters like my friends and former classmates exist, they're just lost in all this mainstream media and disinformation.

You're correct about trying to convince more people but if we're talking about others who are scared over duck hunting... let's be real here, is there any progress to be made? Best of luck to you but that's an incredibly steep hill you're going to climb.

Unfortunately for us we have to choose between bad, worse and dogshit political parties. Abortion appears to be a done deal, and I think the only reason we're forced to talk about it again is because of politicians and urbanites trying so hard to import American topics onto our soil.

As for 2025 (or earlier), we'll see. Other users have pointed to the 600k new members that the CPC has now. I'm betting a lot are gun owners, and a lot more are for Pierre.

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u/Doctor_Dabmeister Jun 07 '22

It's good that you were able to convince people to accept that guns are useful for their personal safety. My plan is to get people I know more comfortable with firearms in general before trying to convince them of anything else. Some people I know seem to be more scared of guns itself rather than being a victim of a mugging or home invasion.

You're correct about trying to convince more people but if we're talking about others who are scared over duck hunting... let's be real here, is there any progress to be made? Best of luck to you but that's an incredibly steep hill you're going to climb.

Thanks lol, thankfully most of my friends/family were easier to convince than that