r/canadaguns May 23 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

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u/drain-angel BC May 29 '22

Why is the discussion around electoralism in firearm politics always revolves on the idea that the CPC should alienate a chunk of their base to satiate non-committal voters on topics that they already objectively are identical to the other parties (but apparently not enough somehow), especially regarding social issues?

Why isn't it the other way around? Why can't the discussion be on getting the Libs/NDP to stop being at our throats? For all these "liberal" gun owners who think they're such a massive influential voting bloc here, why hasn't any progress been made on that front? Especially given that it wasn't too long ago that the NDP had an empowered rural caucus and allowed dissent, such as the LGR vote.

Also credit where credits due, the GPC is about to enact pro-firearm policies but we don't see people running around every other week saying that the GPC needs to alienate their environmentalist base to woo voters for firearm policy.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

Can't wait for the replies on this one

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u/drain-angel BC May 29 '22

I mean I was thinking about it after I saw your comment last night, but it's also a thing that just crops up here enough to be annoying because clearly people want to repeat the same take ad nauseum despite it being explained very well why it's a poor take and it's clear it just stems from more personal belief than hard data.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22 edited May 29 '22

The way I see it, being a liberal voter and a gun owner are mutually incompatible** You see liberal gun owners parading around the fact that they're liberal on here to prove that they exist and that they're not like the others, for whatever that's worth (i.e. worthless). Like, what's the point? For lack of a better term it's self-sabotaging thinking and behavior. We're not fortunate enough to exist in a country where gun rights are relatively untouched by either side of the aisle. One side is actively trying to take away, the other side is neutral at worst or proactive at best. Idk what's so hard to understand about that.

I'm betting that the majority of them don't have any serious kit or firearms; they're missing the intent. I've said it before but guns and gun ownership shouldn't be treated like a casual hobby. Unfortunately, I think that liberal gun owners treat it as just a hobby - they couldn't care if their stuff gets forcefully confiscated. They have no skin in the game lol.

E: and as for the conversation rarely shifting to the Libs or NDP easing the anti-gun rhetoric, I think it's because those parties know their main voting demographics don't like guns. Those parties won't change. "Liberal" gun owners know that too. They can jump ship whenever

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u/Olive-Drab-Green Nyet! Rifle is Fine May 29 '22

Bingo! Trudeau on Monday: all semi autos banned. Lib gun owners: ah yeah well, that’s just the way she goes, anyway. Time to take up lawn bowling

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

They're gonna ruin lawn bowling too.

>"nO onE neEdS to oWn mOrE thAn 2 bOwliNg bAlLs"

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u/Olive-Drab-Green Nyet! Rifle is Fine May 29 '22

“YOuU dUntT nEeEd a boWlInG balLls tO hUnNt a DeER”