r/canadaguns • u/ExpressSize9383 • 13h ago

Buy recommendations Looking for good .223 options

Looking at getting a 223 for target shooting at local range, I was looking at some of the savage models like the Axis II or Apex Storm, but I see a lot of mixed opinions on them. Would it be fine for target practice for a beginner? And before you say it, yes I have a 22, I was just looking at someone with slightly more kick and range.

Edit: im seeing alot of tikka T3x replies and all im wondering is: A, is it worth the extra 400 above the axis 2 and B, do i need a $1500 range .223

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u/No-Today5207 12h ago

Howa mini are on the cheaper end and great shooters if you wanted a bolt action rifle.

It depends on your use case. As its a target rifle i'd pick something with a heavier barrel profile. Savage axis are solidly average rifles for the price, but they have a thinner barrel profile so after 3-10 rounds the barrel heat will affect groups, but a totally serviceable firearm that will give you good enough accuracy if cost is a concern. The apex is a step up in Savage's line, but depending on barrel profile which appears to be more of a lighter profile i think you'd have the same barrel heat issues with longer strings of fire.

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u/ExpressSize9383 12h ago

The apex is $999 w/scope, the Tikka t3x is $1199 without scope and I found a Howa mini action without scope for $800, I also see that I could get the Howa Mini in 7.62x39. Since I plan on hitting target should I get a 7.62? I know the ammo is similar price

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u/Commercial-Detail-31 10h ago

Ammo is actually cheaper as Howa minis are excellent to run surplus ammo into which costs around 40 cents a round or less.They are sub moa with surplus ammo in my experience.223 on the other hand is better if you plan to shoot farther than 300 yards as its more of a flatter round but comes to around 60cents for cheapest ammo.I personally love my howa mini in 7.62x39 as i have a lot of surplus ammo can shoot pre consistent out to 300 yards.

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u/No-Today5207 1h ago

That apex comes with Vortex's worse scope the crossfire though. It'd work but i'd want nicer glass if you want a target gun.

What kind of ranges do you expect to shoot? That'd help me answer your other questions about calibre