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What would you say is the most reliable semi auto .22lr on our market, and using what combo of ammo and magazines? I recently picked up an SBI ST22 and a few TUFF 22 magazines, working on figuring out what kind of ammo they like. Also, share your .22s

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u/SpectreBallistics Spectre Ballistics International (Verified) 17h ago

Blazer 38 Grain.

Also watch the video on how to load those mags.

Also, to be NR your gun needs to be 26" OAL when folded. Might want to get your measuring tape out.

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u/Vivid-Chocolate-4073 16h ago

Did you test out CCI mini mags? How did it do with those?

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u/SpectreBallistics Spectre Ballistics International (Verified) 16h ago

In our user manual we have 3 recommended types of ammo. CCI Blazer 38 Grain, Lapua SK Magazine/Standard, Federal 525 Round Value Pack

Other ammo may or may not work, you'll need to test. I shoot blazer, many cases of it per season. Do not use Winchester or Remington.

https://spectreballistics.com/content/SBI_C-71_ST-22_Owners_Manual_26.08.pdf

We also have a troubleshooting pdf available here: https://spectreballistics.com/content/22LR_Malfunction_Troubleshooting_Guide.pdf

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u/Sad-Stop-2401 15h ago

Can you folks make same in 22WMR? Pretty please?

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u/Horilka 16h ago edited 16h ago

10/22 is the most reliable .22 semi (of stupid design) and CCI Mini Mags are the food.

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u/Master-Editor2668 17h ago

My 10/22 custom build eats everything 

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 17h ago edited 12h ago

Most .22LRs out there can be made reliable with certain mods and HV ammo, to be fair.

The one thing that can't be improved easily, however, is the magazine design.

The most reliable .22LR semi of all time is probably a Gevarm, as there are 3 moving parts: trigger, sear, and bolt. No extractors, no moving firing pins, no nothing whatsoever. Reversible guide rod that changes the bolt mass for HV/SV rounds. The firing wedge contacts the primer at two points instead of one, decreasing the chances of a misfire due to unevem primer spread.

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u/Elbro_16 16h ago

Funny enough my regular TM22 has not jammed on me ever. I’ve put all brands of standard velocity as well as some HV stuff, runs flawlessly.

I just picked up a KR22 and put a SBI 597 adapter on it. It did not run very good initially, but with a little filing on the extractor and some extra spring pressure it will run cci sv and blazer pretty well now

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u/marley_hill 16h ago

TM22 has also been crazy reliable for me with random bulk ammo. Light strike now and then, but for the most part it will eat all of it. Remington Golden bulk ammo has been good, CCi blazer (bulk pack), and even the federal 500 round bulk packs have ran. Bought some Winchester 1000 round pack at Canadian tire, it’s a little waxy but i will see how it goes. If it doesn’t work out it will be food for the Cooey.

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u/darkvaider123 17h ago edited 15h ago

Avoid Aguila 22lr. Runs really dirty and builds up carbon fast, causing light strikes and jams

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u/bung_musk 15h ago

I’ve run like 4k rounds of Aguila Super Extra HP thru my 10/22 and zero issues

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u/LongjumpingChipmunk 17h ago

I avoid blanket statements about what works in .22s. Barrel matching to ammo is a weird voodoo, even in the same model of gun.

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u/looloopklopm 16h ago

He's right though it does run extremely dirty. I bought 4000 of them and it's by far the dirtiest ammo I've ever purchased.

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u/SpectreBallistics Spectre Ballistics International (Verified) 16h ago

Not nearly as dirty as Thunderbolt.

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u/LongjumpingChipmunk 16h ago

Aguila makes many different loadings of 22. Which was it?

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u/looloopklopm 16h ago

Pretty sure the super extra 40gr round nose

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 16h ago edited 14h ago

Aguila Super Extra (40gr copper coated ones) jams like crazy in my 10/22.

I found Federal AutoMatch to work well in my short barrel 10/22 and TUF-22 magazines.

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u/Krasdf 13h ago

I shot 2K of them and had three malfunctions. Good enough for me.

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u/Vivid-Chocolate-4073 11h ago

2k of what rifle/mags/ammo? Sounds like a good setup

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u/Krasdf 10h ago

10/22 bx 25 and stock mags with Aguila 38 and 40 grain. Cleaned every 500 rounds give or take.

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u/Alternative_Wafer242 16h ago

Yo, same here on my Cz 457 and gsg 1911. Really dirty. Basically forced to clean the gun every time I take it to the range

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u/groggygirl 14h ago

My 10/22 has never jammed. That being said, low velocity (eg CCI quiet) doesn't have enough oomph to eject properly so I've never used it in this gun.

If you like minimags, look into the AR Tactical ones. If I understand correctly, they are 40gr minimags but with a slightly different shape that cycles better in semi-autos. They are slightly less accurate than SV in most guns (ie if I ever manage to get into a Mapleseed course near me I won't be using them).

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u/therowdyirishman 16h ago

Nice rig, that looks great dude! As for most reliable combo, I'd say a quality 10/22 build with the ammo it likes using OEM Ruger 10rnd mags.

Blazer and CCI SV are the only 22LR I buy in bulk now. I used to get whatever was cheapest with the exception of Winchester white box or Remington. I decided it wasn't worth it risking the reduced reliability to save a couple bucks and I've been much happier since. My TM22 and 10/22 takedown both eat CCI SV or blazer without complaint.

More often than not I think mag loading technique or shite ammo is to blame. My 22/45 (probably over 10k rounds now) rarely jams when I load it but my buddy has issues if he does. I had success with the Tuff-22 mags using the technique shown in this video, granted I usually only loaded 20 rather than 25. One perk to the TM22 is the mags don't require any refined technique to load. Don't forget your mags need love (cleaning) too though. Followers eventually get caked in carbon which increases friction and eventually leads to failure to feed issues. https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/s/irFI1s7C15 Here's a couple of my current 22LR rifles: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/s/nrk4xlAnMF https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/s/uGVZXLfSBe

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u/Vivid-Chocolate-4073 14h ago

when you say you usually only load 20, is that because loading to 25 was casing issues, or just for convenience?

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u/therowdyirishman 13h ago

Bit of both. I bought 4 mags and an extra pack of clips. I felt it was worth the compromise given how quick/easy they were to reload with my DIY speed loader. To answer your question on the 10/22 sub - I would recommend an A2 bird cage as way to protect your crown from damage. Any muzzle device with small ports will eventually get obstructed by lead fouling which is super toxic and difficult to remove.

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u/Vivid-Chocolate-4073 13h ago

Good to know, thank you. And I actually have put an A2 birdcage on it since that photo was taken: I wanted something on the muzzle, and I didn't want to be that guy who throws a muzzle brake on a damned .22lr

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u/ManufacturerMuch5116 17h ago

recoil spring is an easy one to change. lots of different weights to play around with.

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u/boomstickjonny 16h ago

My 10/22 was great with the stock mags before I modded the fuck out of it.

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u/bung_musk 15h ago

10/22 feeding Aguila Super Extra HP. CCI mini mags work great, but cost almost 2x more

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u/Haunting-Goose5368 15h ago

I have never had a miss fire or jam with my ruger 10/22. Pair that with an Archangel stock and you got yourself a cope rifle thru and thru.

My brother has a TM22 and it misfires once every mag

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u/ExplosiveFetusActual 15h ago

Are you using the standard 10 round rotary magazine? Because those are reliable. Most people use larger mags and adapters to use Remington 597 mags since Ruger mags that hold more than 10 were made prohibited, and those are not as reliable.

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u/Haunting-Goose5368 14h ago

Yea I'm use standard mag then I 3d printed an extender to fit my Archangel stock

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u/ExplosiveFetusActual 8h ago

That's why you're not having any jams. The rotary mags get around the probelm of rimmed cartridges having trouble feeding in a regular magazine.

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u/TheBulletBuddy 14h ago

Never been able to get those TUFF22 mags to work. All sorts of ammo, an SBI receiver, nothing works. Tried calling the manufacturer a year or so ago and got told that a wonky batch got released and some people have had more issues than others with them. Was recommended that i start swapping all sorts of parts out to try and make them work.

Needless to say they now collect dirt in the bottom of my parts case.

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u/TheObviousNovice 12h ago

Gotta ask, did that top rail over the handguard come with your G3 Chassis? Great looking build, I might have to jump on that wagon myself soon.

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u/Vivid-Chocolate-4073 12h ago

Unfortunately no, that part is made by SBI but I had to buy it separately. I used it to mount the QD adapter for the sling to it, so that it would be out of the way of my hand.

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u/Blackwalls69 4h ago

Is that one of those high powered rifles?

u/SKS1953 33m ago

That there's a weapon of war!!!!!!!