r/canadaguns 1d ago

Application / Regulation advice Anyone manage to legally acquire a handgun AFTER the ban?

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Anyone legally acquire a handgun after the ban by training for an International Olympic Committee programme?

Or does it entail too much money or the admission criteria is too difficult?

Apologies if its a dumb question mods but I was doing some research and it piqued my curiosity.

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u/MostEnergeticSloth 1d ago

I've seen multiple different posts of people acquiring .22 handguns after the ban. I think I even saw one where they got a 9mm conversion kit for their newly-acquired .22.

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u/Particular_Signal198 1d ago

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u/NotTheParaMagician 1d ago

Exemption that allows for training for Olympic shooting sports, they are limited to .22s.

Not an expert, but afaik you need to be actively training and competing in development clubs to even apply, it's not a "I'm going to compete sometime in the future so let me buy a pistol" kind of thing.

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u/Pelcat 1d ago

You'd have to get an exemption and then get a .22 pistol that has the same frame as a 9mm. For instance a CZ 75 Cadet.

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u/anni_shoots 1d ago

Hypothetically, for a friend, in Minecraft, could you have someone in the US slap a .22 conversion kit on a 9mm framed pistol, import and register it as a .22, then import the original slide and barrel later down the line?

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u/nderestimated 1d ago

Wouldn't there be a problem vis a vis the FRT as it then probably wouldn't be on there? Based on my very limited understanding

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u/MindYourOpSec 1d ago

Correct, the pistol needs to have a .22LR FRT to be imported as such. Which pretty much restricts you to models like the CZ75 Kadet, which has a FRT in 22 but is built on the same frame as the 9mm version.

You also have to notify the CFO of the change in calibre, but the law says you have 30 days to do so, and technically you can swap it back to 22 once a month to avoid that, lol.

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u/Sad-Stop-2401 22h ago edited 22h ago

Uhhhmmm.... Glock 17 have 22LR FRT entries....

https://www.armalytics.ca/firearm/143147-glock-17

And Glock 17 Gen 3 in 22LR is available for sale in IRG in US store.

<Link Removed, Reddit hates it>

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 19h ago

Just ask the nice people at firearmident@rcmp-grc.gc.ca to write you a FRT.

I am not joking. They've assisted me with generating FRTs for US imports.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 12h ago

Timeline?

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 11h ago

Varies a lot in my experience, from less than a week to a couple months. But if it's something as simple as a new barrel for an existing handgun, it's usually pretty quick

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

No that’s what that’s I’m doing. I’d rather having something cooler than a p226 but hey it beats nothing. I guess the mk23 and samurai edge will have to wait for another lifetime

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Here are some common guns that can be imported as a 22 and have the slide/parts swapped to a center fire one:

1911s, CZ 75/ Shadow 2 Kadets, Sig P226, certain 2011s, Certain models of Smith and Wesson/ Colt revolvers, etc

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u/starw24-ps4 1d ago

Saw a thread on CGN with a guy testing multiple 1911 22 swaps, said none of them were compatible. Do you know of 2 models that work together?

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Most center fire 1911s support the marvel/nelson customs/kimber kits. It doesn't matter what conversion kit you use; just need the center fire frame, which is all that matters

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u/starw24-ps4 1d ago

So the frame would be the serialized part, correct? Which would need be a rimfire version when imported? I think that’s where people were getting caught up. Very confusing laws

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Center fire frames can be imported with rimfire parts, which will make it a rimfire handgun when you import it. Once you recieved it you can swap on center fire parts

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u/AntiNakedman 1d ago

Keep in mind that the regulations: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-201/FullText.html

require that you notify the registrar if you change the calibre in certain circumstances (section 4(2)). Our gun laws are so ridiculous.

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

That is if you intent to modify it permanently/ for more than 30 days. If you swap calibers then put it back to 22 LR once you done shooting center fire there is nothing they could technically do about it

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u/Iokua_CDN 21h ago

Which honestly,  while I'd want to shoot it in 9mm, I'd also probably have a blast shooting in in 22lr for even cheaper ammo and training!  

So while it certainly is a hassle,  I'd also love to own a 9mm and a 22lr pistol, so it really wouldn't change much of anything for me

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u/AntiNakedman 1d ago

Yes, that’s why I said “in certain circumstances”.

Again - ridiculous gun laws

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u/methlabz 1d ago

Props - I'll probably DM you at some point 👊

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u/snakeeatbear 22h ago

Converting it to 9mm is illegal unfortunately 

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u/MostEnergeticSloth 22h ago

Permanently, maybe. Depends if the CFO let you change the registration details or not and if you left it on for more than 30 days without telling them. Bet that would be a weird one to prove in court.

But people have been TEMPORARILY using .22 conversion kits on 9mm handguns at the range since they became available with no issue, just putting the 9mm parts back on before heading home. Using a 9mm kit on a .22 is, legally speaking, no different.

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u/Professional_Chef379 1d ago

Not me, but a co-worker has gotten multiple from participating in multiple Olympic style shooting events.

Edit: we are in Alberta, if that helps

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u/Oje_a 15h ago

What area in Alberta? Could you ask them for details please? What club?what competitions?

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

If you are in Ontario/ Quebec, its super easy to get the Olympic exemption/ Trapper ATC. Its highly regulated now in BC/Alberta. Most of my Toronto friends has gotta at least half a dozen handguns now after the ban. Makes me jeolous

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u/Agile-Delay-8770 1d ago

Do you know anything about how easy it is in Manitoba?

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

No clue man. Sorry I've never been to Manitoba yet and don't know anyone from there

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u/Beaulieua19 1d ago

I thought it was harder to get the Olympic exemption in Quebec? Am I tripping?

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Quebec/Ontario you can get Center fire exemptions easily though

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

Yo what? Can a brother borrow some information?

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

If you get your coach to sign that you need a center fire handgun to practice, as long as your coach is reputable, you would be able to get a center fire handgun general exemption, which allows you to purchase any centerfire handgun/frame like a glock or a CZ shadow 2

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u/JETRUG 21h ago

When I reached out to the SFC (last month) they told me 4-6 months of practice, training, or competing and 22lr only. I can't seem to DM you but can you tell me how you found a coach and how often you have to train etc.? Thanks!

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Juat placed my order for a glock/ cz shadow last week. I'll update y'all when I recieve it, which should be Christmas time

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u/EythereBud 1d ago

Are you in ontario? What organization did you go through to get the exemption? Been trying to navigate this myself, If you can dm me I'd appreciate it

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

SFC (shooting fed of Canada). My friend went the trapper route and thats pretty easy too

If you go the SFC you will need a good coach to sign off your practice logs/ match logs/ exemption requests

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u/starw24-ps4 1d ago

Very interesting! I have been trying to find coaches for this in Ontario, my club does not run a large Bullseye league.

It’s not letting me send you a DM, would you mind reaching out? Thank you!

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u/DarkFar5348 17h ago

Would really appreciate some more info on this, could you DM me?

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

Fuck me man I’ve been working night and day to make sense of the Quebec system and I’m just about ready to apply when I finish my 2nd comp this weekend. This is great news pleas keep us posted I’d love to go the same route you did

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

Hey man can I dm you for more info,

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Sure

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u/thecoolernameistaken 23h ago

Looks like I can’t dm your account. But basically just was going to ask you which coach and other stuff I’d imagine you don’t want publicly posted. I imagine the rcmp is on here trying to tighten restrictions

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 23h ago

DMed ya

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u/EythereBud 23h ago

Would also like to know which coach you used, if you could dm me as well I'd appreciate it thank you

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u/Much_Relationship445 15h ago

Hey man, could I get some info too?

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u/BtnMashr 1h ago

Could you also send me some more information as well? Please and thank you.

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u/hunterofsteelhead 1d ago

Theres been tons of people riding that wave

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u/22GageEnthusiast 1d ago

I just requested my exemption letter from the SFC this past Sunday. The person at the SFC said it may take up to 2 weeks. After that, I will finally be able to purchase my first handgun.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

Which province?

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u/22GageEnthusiast 1d ago

Onterrible

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

3 comps in 2 diff clubs

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u/22GageEnthusiast 1d ago

I dunno what you mean by this

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

I was told the rules are you have to attend 3 comps at 2 different clubs to apply is that not the case?

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u/TescoValueSoup 1d ago

that is not the case, no.

Join the OIHL if you're SW ontario, start posting scores and get your letter

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u/22GageEnthusiast 13h ago

That is not true. One club that participates in Bullseye events is good enough. Like other people have mentioned.....any gun clubs that are a part of the OIHL (Ontario Intercounty Handgun League) would be perfectly acceptable.

Check out any of the listed clubs.....I'm sure there will be at least 1 or 2 that are open to new members.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 12h ago

Interesting. That’s what the CHC told me. Seems like nothings standardized

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u/22GageEnthusiast 12h ago

wtf is the CHC?

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u/thecoolernameistaken 2h ago

Cornwall handgun club. They had a handful of dudes get their letters through the 2/1 rule I mentioned

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u/Sad-Stop-2401 1d ago

SFC is canada wide.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

Except Quebec where FQTIR handles it. And the fact that waiting times depend on province

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u/TheRealTwooni 1d ago

I dunno. Seems like some guys out in Abbotsford BC have all the latest handguns. 🤷‍♂️

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u/naidacsac 22h ago

What new guns are you seeing out there? Are they cops or something?

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u/TheRealTwooni 21h ago

I dunno. Some guy named, Bishnoi? 🤷‍♂️

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u/MourningWood1942 1d ago

There’s the heritage rough rider carbine .22 long rifle

Aztech Armory is a cool store to shop at.

That’s all I need to say about that.

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u/MarkDometitaOfSurrey 1d ago

Yeah you can source short factory barrels and pistol grips for the rough rider

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u/Iokua_CDN 21h ago

I won't lie, even the full stock but the little Pistol barrel on the rough rider sounds incredibly fun to me!

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u/22GageEnthusiast 1d ago

Btw, here's the criteria for the Olympic handgun exemption. This applies Canada wide I believe. Alberta might have an easier process though.

  1. Have an RPAL

  2. Be a member of a gun club that takes part in an ISSF/Olympic handgun discipline

  3. Be a member of the Shooting Federation of Canada (SFC) this is about $55 a year.

  4. Take part in the appropriate discipline for about 4-6 months by going to practices and SFC sanctioned matches. (I have heard of people only doing like 2-3 weeks of practice and like 1 match.)

  5. Send a request to the SFC for an exemption letter

  6. SFC sends the exemption letter

  7. Find the 22LR handgun that you want. Purchase it and provide the exemption letter.

  8. Wait for the RCMP transfer to go through.

  9. Get handgun.

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u/att_110 1d ago

Sorry for the dumb question but how do you get a handgun to practice and participate in a match?

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u/Professional_Chef379 1d ago

Also, you can use an air pistol to compete

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u/ohphee bc 1d ago

Some clubs have handguns to lend you for the duration of the practice to get newcomers into the sport of WIPL.

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u/TescoValueSoup 1d ago

you get friendly with other members who have extra handguns. some clubs will even pair you with a mentor

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u/22GageEnthusiast 13h ago

My club has loaner guns for member's with RPALs that can use them

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u/conanap 1d ago

Yuh I got 2 .22s, would not be overly difficult for me to get a centre fire if I choose to compete in centre fire.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

How so?

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u/conanap 1d ago

How so what?

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u/Horilka 1d ago

exemption is only for .22. I understand that there are platforms where you can use center fire upper on the shared lower, but you said you can get center fire, not just upper?

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u/conanap 1d ago

You can get exemption for centre fire if you compete in it. I know a few fellas who got them and they have purchased centre fire.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

How are you getting centre fires if the exemption is 22 only?

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u/conanap 1d ago

If you compete in centre fire you can get a centre fire.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 1d ago

Which federation? IPSC IDFA ETC? I’m getting a p226 22lr so I’d be able to swap upper and eventually apply for centre. I’d like more info if you have bud

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u/conanap 1d ago

Only ISSF disciplines, so you’ll have to participate in 25m sport pistol

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u/kaydenb3 1d ago

There are guides for Olympic expeditions 

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u/SixEyeSassquatch 1d ago

If youre lucky enough to live by a gun club that supports it; maybe.

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u/gangstaeckz 1d ago

Not in Onterrible as far as I know.

Berta is the one I've seen the most

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u/22GageEnthusiast 1d ago

You can get exemptions in Ontario....I know multiple people who have. I'm in the process of it rn.

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u/Hisoka365 1h ago

I'm in Ontario and picked up 4, 22lr's this year, with another 2 coming. 1 from IRunGuns and another from an auction.

Soon I'll be looking into pistols with conversion kits and seeing what I can get.