r/canadaguns • u/charlietango-001 • 4d ago
Gun and gear reviews Can You Actually Own a Handgun in Canada Right Now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytid2iF4-2I&t=2shi guys,
check this one out!
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u/GuySavardy 4d ago
Not to throw shade, but there are some errors here, in this person’s understanding of Canadian firearms ownership. They aren’t aware of ATC’s, wilderness carry or specific storage laws with ammo. It’s not all bad advice, just thought I’d mention that they should do some more research. Then again, they made a video and I didn’t, so take my constructive criticisms with a grain of salt.
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u/charlietango-001 4d ago edited 4d ago
we where not talking about wilderness carry licenses plus they don't issue it to the average Joe anyway, Its not very comment and there isn't any videos about it
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u/under_hunter82376 4d ago
to be frank - yes you can own a handgun if you have an RPAL , or owned one before the freeze . the transfers of them are frozen though .
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u/GuySavardy 4d ago
There are ways to get a 22lr handgun if you sign up with a target shooting association that is part of the governing body for Olympic shooting competitions. Many are getting approvals for obtaining new 22lr pistols recently.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 4d ago
The title alone is clickbait and wrong. Of course I can own a handgun in Canada.
It should be "can you actually ACQUIRE a handgun in Canada right now".
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u/charlietango-001 4d ago
you can only own what you had before they change the law in 2022, you can't buy any new once!
how ever I have to say I saw some 22 pistols at Reliable guns here in Vancover but they only sell those to people with very narrow sporting exception such as Olympic shooter, and an Olympic shooter you and I are not!
pleas share with the community her if you have any other ways!!
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u/Ok-Community-3922 3d ago edited 3d ago
Good video. Anything that raises the profile of firearms in Canada in a positive light is good for us. Just some minor misconceptions:
(1) The RCMP doesn’t do a ‘background check’ when transferring a firearm. They transfer the registration for said firearm into your name and review your history of past transfers. As a PAL holder you get a continuous eligibility check every day, meaning that if your name is flagged in CPIC, PROSE or another police reporting system an FO will review your file and determine if there are grounds for enforcement action.
(2) You can absolutely have loaded mags & ammo in the same case as your handgun. The only restriction is it can’t be stored in the gun. Same goes for ammunition at home provided your cases are locked.
(3) Some CFOs required you to be a club member to purchase a handgun. This is (or was) usually verified at the point of purchase and not recorded into any system of record. Really dumb rule and I only remember having to provide a ‘member number’ when I bought my first handgun .
(4) All RPAL holders with a handgun (or any other restricted firearm) registered to them receive an automatic LTATT to any range in their province of residence. Obviously still need to wait for your reg certificate and technically your new licence with the new conditions on it.
(5) Tracer ammunition is absolutely legal. I’ve not seen a civilian range that permits its use however totally legal to possess and use.
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u/charlietango-001 3d ago
call any firearm instructor or pal instructor and ask if you can have loaded mags & ammo in the same case as your handgun and the answer will be a big NO, you can even call the Cfo and ask,
do you have a video of you or someone you know shooting tracer at a range or in crown land here in Canada that you can share with us? id love to see that if you do!
tracers are illegal to import to Canada or to shoot in crown land and I don't know if any range that allows it, (except for government use such as military)
I've seen some people on Gunpost selling tracers however I wouldn't touch it if I was you!
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u/Ok-Community-3922 2d ago edited 2d ago
SOR 98/209 in para 6C sets out “An individual may store a restricted firearm only if… (C)…it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm..”
There is no amplification related to whether said ammunition is contained in a magazine or otherwise. The Firearms Act (SOR 98/209) further defines ‘unloaded’ to mean that “propellant, projectiles or cartridges that can be discharged from the firearm are not contained in the breech or firing chamber of the firearm nor in the cartridge magazine attached to or inserted into the firearm.” Therefore having a loaded magazine next to your pistol does not a loaded pistol make.
Tracers are not explicitly regulated in the firearms act as in SOR 98/462, where prohibited ammunition is defined as that which “ignites or explodes on impact”. This would exclude tracer ammunition as it doesn’t ignite on impact.
Tracers also cannot be ‘explosives’ as they do not produce “…a gas at a temperature, pressure and speed that could cause damage to the surrounding structures and infrastructure” as in the Explosives Act. In layman’s terms - they don’t explode, they ignite. They must therefore contain a pyrotechnic compound which is legal to possess just like a common road flare or tannerite.
Agreed. Shooting tracer on crown land is inadvisable and you are bound to abide by provincial/local restrictions on the setting of fires. Definitely negligent in a dry environment, however not explicitly illegal by default.
Also important to note that a police officer’s/CFO/FOs opinion is not law, nor is policy or regulation even though it may have the force of law in the moment. There are a lot of misconceptions floating around in the firearms community legally speaking and it’s not anyone’s fault in particular. These documents are designed to be intentionally difficult to read and interpret for the sole reason of making it hard for the average Joe to own cool firearms and ammunition.
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u/CrabShout 4d ago
I would have hoped you would do more research before putting something out like this