Anyone still waiting for handgun transfer approvals for USA imports since July?

[u/Curious_Joe2020]

Is anyone still waiting for handgun transfer approvals for USA imports since July? Specifically referring to Olympic exemption 22LR letters already submitted for IRG orders.

Has anyone heard what is going on or the reason for the delays? The usual transfer approval timeline should be 2-3 weeks max once the letter is submitted to the RCMP. Without the transfer approval nothing can be imported or shipped. It usually takes 2 weeks for the approval and another 1 week to get the registration certificate mailed. For some it has been almost 2 months.

[u/Elbro_16 → u/[deleted]]

This is not true. SFC considered “tactical” 22lr handguns as beginner training guns. The more expensive stuff like pardini’s are for advanced shooters. This is why they issue exemptions for pretty much anything to get people into the sport affordably

[u/julienjj → u/Elbro_16]

Pardini's command serious coin. Kinda sad there isn't anything cheaper at that level.

A bunch of "tactical" 22lr are still much more precise than the shooter...technique is like 95% of the accuracy.

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/Elbro_16]

Yes exactly this, any 22LR is good for training as long as it can be imported (minimum barrel length requirements). Except maybe the ones that can be converted to 9mm?

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/[deleted]]

It has nothing to do with that since that is before the exemption is issued. The exemption letters were already issued. The transfers were not denied. Just delayed at the RCMP/Registrar level. I think it specifically affects the imports.

[u/AdeptArt → u/Curious_Joe2020]

not necessarily true, I saw someone talk about RCMP questioning their issued exemption letter.

[u/conanap → u/AdeptArt]

RCMp almost always questions it, you just have to provide proof you qualify for it.

[u/Commercial-Detail-31 → u/conanap]

Can you please tell me What would count as sufficient proof if you don’t even have a handgun to train with?

[u/conanap → u/Commercial-Detail-31]

If you don’t have a handgun then unfortunately, under current rules (not sure how BC is going on rn, I heard they’re following rest of Canada soon but I’m unsure), you must borrow a pistol and shoot it for a while. No way around it, at least in Ontario.

[u/Commercial-Detail-31 → u/conanap]

I meant I already have submitted the exemption letter to rcmp after importing via irunguns.my question was what kind of more proof can they ask for after transfer has been initiated in BC

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/Commercial-Detail-31]

Nothing. They have to allow it under legislation as you already provided proof of the exemption. If they formally deny it take them to Federal Court for a Judicial Review and contact the NFA for legal advice. Don't play the phone game delay or explanation game. They have to make a formal decision and notify you in writing. Whatever rules were in place at the time the exemption was issued is what would be considered legally. The legislation and regulation have not changed. RCMP is not the governing body and their job is not no create policy but follow the legislation. Administrative fairness does not allow changing the requirements after an exemption was issued. Likewise they can't deny something when the legislation requirements are met. Especially when the same exact thing was approved months earlier with the same documentation.

[u/conanap → u/Commercial-Detail-31]

The same proof you provided to get the exemption letter. Did you get the exemption letter without any participation? I remember hearing BC had apparently a provincial body doing exemptions and didn’t require participation or training before hand? In that case they might deny it, but usually the letter is sufficient.

[u/Commercial-Detail-31 → u/conanap]

Correct at the time of applying BCTSA did not require active participation but just a promise to practice and compete.They provided me exemption letter without me having an active practice proof.

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/conanap]

No that's the process of getting the letter. Once you have the letter there are no legal grounds to deny the transfer since it is exempt. They could delay the registration though out of Ottawa.

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/AdeptArt]

Yeah that's the standard process. RCMP send the "RCMP Canadian Firearms Program - missing information" letter requesting the exemption reason (letter). That is when the letter is provided.

[u/AdeptArt → u/Curious_Joe2020]

no, I didn’t say the RCMP asks you a question requesting your letter. I said the RCMP questions your letter. Different things. Aka challenging the validity of your letter, post issuance.

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/AdeptArt]

Well they already approved two of them recently so if the third gets denied with identical paperwork then we're going to Federal Court over it.

[u/Loud_Cap_4250 → u/AdeptArt]

Yep rcmp can and will question the exemption even months after you send them the exemption letter and start the pistol transfer

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/Loud_Cap_4250]

I don't think so. Once the exemption is provided the legislation requirements are met. They have to approve the transfer. They would only ask more questions if you were trying to sneak in a 9mm conversion maybe and the initial exemption process missed it. RCMP is NOT the governing body who issues the exemptions. They follow the law and regulations not make policy.

[u/Loud_Cap_4250 → u/Curious_Joe2020]

This is false it happened to me which is how I know. A lot of people are going to be upset their transfer gets to the registry and it’s denied/indefinitely delayed. The bc cfo approves it and then it goes to the registry which is Ottawa so they can do whatever they want.

[u/Commercial-Detail-31 → u/Loud_Cap_4250]

What additional information they asked from you regarding your exemption letter if you don’t mind me asking?

[u/Curious_Joe2020 → u/Loud_Cap_4250]

If it gets denied then you go to Federal Court for judicial review and they lose big time. If it gets delayed and then denied even worse. Don't play the game of providing more info and doing things involving jumping through hoops that are not in the legislation. The RCMP Registry does not set policy nor do they create regulations or laws. The law is very clear with a lawful exemption the transfer would be approved. The RCMP is not the sports governing body and have no business setting policy. They just process the transfer and registration once the required paperwork is provided.