r/canadaguns • u/Greedy-Win-7219 • 19d ago
Shooting Is this fairly “accurate” for 200 yards
I’m new to shooting and still trying to understand moa’s and all that. These 4 shots were taken in 40 seconds and from my understanding is about 1 moa apart on each? Is that a good grouping for a hunting rifle. It’s a 30-06, should I adjust my sight any further or just leave as is?
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u/Yankee_on_vanisle Van Isle 19d ago
If its Iron sights off hand : Great/excellent!
Iron Sights and benched : Very Good / Great
Scoped and off hand: Good / Very good
Scoped and benched: Pretty good
In all seriousness
Listen, it'll smoke a deer or larger with no issues, If that's what you are gonna do come hunting season, I wouldn't be upset.
A Deer has a vital zone the size of a dinner plate, a moose or elk is even bigger.
It looks like you and your rifle are doing their part, now you just gotta learn to listen to the woods.
Congrats!
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u/LongRoadNorth 19d ago
Is this with iron sights?
It's a bit over 1moa. What ammo? What barrel length? Are you aiming at the centre the whole time?
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u/DryF1re 19d ago
"I’m new to shooting"
why would this be iron sites?
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u/illknowitwhenireddit 19d ago
Because a lotmof new shooters can't afford both a rifle and a scope and rings
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u/DryF1re 19d ago
aint no way a new shooter is taking their .30-06 200yards on iron sites AND hitting these shots.
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u/LongRoadNorth 19d ago edited 19d ago
Honestly that was my thought too but saying adjust my sight and not adjust my scope/optic threw me off.
Either way at 200 yards if the point of aim never changed and that was the way it grouped that's less of an optic issue, more of an ammo/shooter skill level.
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u/Scary-Detail-3206 19d ago
This is good enough accuracy for hunting, barely over a MOA.
You’ll get a better group if you shoot a bit slower. Give it 40s-1 min between shots to let the barrel cool down a bit.
Also consider trying some different ammunition. This is what my groups look like at 200 yards with most loads. If I switch over to the ammo my gun shoots best, the groups are tighter by default.
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u/Blue_ech0 19d ago
That group @ 200 yards is pretty decent with a "hunting rifle".
A couple characters showed up at a rifle sight-in day at the local range. I forget what they were shooting, but they touched every corner of an 11x14" target @ 100 yards, called it good enough and packed it in.
Yours won't win any competitions, but it'll drop game.
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u/SoundGeek97 on 19d ago
Definitely shooting "minute of deer" there my friend! In time you'll get it to tighten up, but yes this is good enough for hunting.
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u/tmwildwood-3617 19d ago
Yup...fine for hunting big game.
MOA is approximately 1" at 100 yrds, 2" at 200 yrds, etc...
You didn't say what scope. Obviously it's harder to shoot consistenly if you aren't picking a precise aiming point. Are you able to aim and hold precisely enough to discern 1/8 or 1/4" at 200yrds?
Didn't specify which hole was which shot in the string. As your barrel heats up the barrel harmonics will change and affect your point of impact. So if you're locking in on that 1st shot consistency then you may want to let the barrel totally cool off between shots. But definitely worth knowing what your rifle is doing if you had to bang off shots quickly.
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u/Wiggum13 19d ago
It all depends what your goals are. Hunting, this is great. Prs comp, lots of room for improvement.
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u/Regular_Doughnut8964 14d ago
Accuracy is relevant to the mission of the rifle. If your rifle is for hunting in <200 meter shots you have adequate Accuracy. If you are thinking of 1000 yard DCRA competition then it is left wanting. A bench rest or sniper rifle should put 5 rounds in the same hole with the group measuring under 2 times bullet diameter. A heavy caliber rifle for short range (50 meters or less) is considered accurate enough if it can hit a saucer 3x. There are many ways to tune and accurate both rifle and ammo, but the one using the trigger is generally the one that needs the most adjustment.
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u/BigheadReddit 19d ago
That’s a good group for 200. If you were hitting that consistently, ie. a similar group 3 or 4 times, I’d come right and down a bit like equivalent to 1/2 inch each. But, even if you didn’t you’d drop an animal if you aimed at the vitals for sure.
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u/MasterScore8739 19d ago
For a newer shooter with something as ‘heavy’ as a 30-06, I’d say this is pretty damn good.
My only advice would be to try and focus a little more on breathing. That’s usually what will cause your shots to have that vertical stringing.
Try to take a deeper breath, let about half of it out and hold it there. Give yourself about 1-2 seconds with that half breath to get a shot off. If you can’t, exhale and take a couple normal breaths and then try again.
For an average hunting rifle I’d consider 1MOA about as tight as can be expected. If you have the money to spare, maybe try a bullet that’s a bit lighter and then a bit heavier than what you shot this group with. It might not change much, but you might be able to squeeze an extra 1/4MOA out of it.
For scope adjustments, personally I’d leave them as is. The majority of hits are vertically cantered. The hit to the left is what I’d consider a flyer in this case.
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u/BowFella 19d ago
That's like 2-2.5moa. if your gun is a 1.25moa gun you are pretty much at the limit of it's capability.
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u/MasterScore8739 19d ago
This was shot at 200 yards, each square is 1”, at most it’s vertically ~1.25MOA. Horizontal it’s basically 1MOA or close enough that it’s splitting hairs.
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u/Regular_Doughnut8964 14d ago
Accuracy is relevant to the mission of the rifle. If your rifle is for hunting in <200 meter shots you have adequate Accuracy. If you are thinking of 1000 yard DCRA competition then it is left wanting. A bench rest or sniper rifle should put 5 rounds in the same hole with the group measuring under 2 times bullet diameter. A heavy caliber rifle for short range (50 meters or less) is considered accurate enough if it can hit a saucer 3x. There are many ways to tune and accurate both rifle and ammo, but the one using the trigger is generally the one that needs the most adjustment.
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u/BeerGunsMusicFood 19d ago
Looks like you’re a bit above 1 moa but most people are. I’d adjust 1/2 moa down and 1/2 moa right and call it a day. If I were looking to hunt out to 200 yards I would take that group all day.